- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 13:12:54 -0400
- To: "Repsher, Stephen J" <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>
- Cc: "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDacihZMXXHESejj=jTcAFx2wjEgttMT-NKW9HGhCqJZYg@mail.gmail.com>
Interesting idea, let's keep that in our back pockets if the current one has issues in comments cycle. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Repsher, Stephen J < stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com> wrote: > *[Jason] This is interesting. Do you have a good estimate of what > proportion of the troublesome cases (those which would be problematic for > users) this covers?* > > > > No, unfortunately I do not. The goal was much less grandiose. > Essentially, I wanted to say that for a given visual presentation of > content, make all targets as big as they could be without necessarily > having to change anything visually. The entire table cell, tab, accordion > header, control+label, etc. should be included in a target. > > > > Steve > > > > *From:* White, Jason J [mailto:jjwhite@ets.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:02 AM > *To:* Repsher, Stephen J <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>; WCAG < > w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > *Subject:* RE: Target size alternative > > > > > > > > *From:* Repsher, Stephen J [mailto:stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com > <stephen.j.repsher@boeing.com>] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:29 AM > *To:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > > Each target includes any associated heading or label which does not serve > more than one target, and the full extent of any container(s) for which it > is the only element. > > > > And then maybe redefine target in the glossary simply to (utilizing the > existing definition for user interface component): > > > > target: the physical area of a user interface component that accepts a > click or touch for activation > > > > I think this would certainly make a lot of unnecessarily small targets > across the web much bigger, yet it inherently excludes any links within > blocks of text and other points of contention. The exception for "more than > one target" is meant to handle situations such as tables where multiple > controls may reference a single label using aria-labeledby or similar > technique. > > *[Jason] This is interesting. Do you have a good estimate of what > proportion of the troublesome cases (those which would be problematic for > users) this covers? Perhaps I’m naïve, but it seems to me that the very > small in-line targets that people are trying to exclude would be the worst > cases for the users with dexterity issues. I think this entire problem > calls for a “user agent” solution.* > > *Returning to the original proposal, the difficulty with small targets > seems to be that increasing the size without overlapping requires > corresponding increases in the size of (or spacing between) the controls, > introducing the problem of horizontal scrolling as John noted. There have > been allegations about other formatting problems that would make the > resultant material hard to read. So perhaps a narrow exception to cover > just those cases would be in order, rather than a broad exception for > “in-line” controls and links.* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or > confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom > it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail > in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or > take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete > it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. > > > > Thank you for your compliance. > ------------------------------ >
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