RE: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?

Ø  that PDF delivered via FTP is in scope...

This is something the group doesn’t seem to agree on.  I’d like to get consensus on this as well.  I was told by members of the working group who were involved during WCAG 2.0’s creation that it was not covered.

Jonathan

From: John Foliot [mailto:john.foliot@deque.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:46 PM
To: Laura Carlson
Cc: James Nurthen; Gregg C Vanderheiden; Jonathan Avila; w3c-waI-gl@w3. org; public-low-vision-a11y-tf
Subject: Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?

Clarification / correction / addition:
...If Web Start is used to transport and then launch a User Interface-based application or content​, I'd argue that yes, it is in scope in the same way that PDF delivered via FTP is in scope...

JF

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com<mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Gregg,

Did you mean WCAG's Web page definition?
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#webpagedef


Or something else?

Thanks.

Kindest Regards,
Laura

On 4/26/17, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com<mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com>> wrote:
> Can someone point to that definition because I can't find it.
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>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:32, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu<mailto:greggvan@umd.edu>> wrote:
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>> the definition of Web Content is in the definition section of WCAG.
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>> if something meets that definition  - it would be Web Content as per
>> WCAG.
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>> g
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>> Gregg C Vanderheiden
>> greggvan@umd.edu<mailto:greggvan@umd.edu>
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>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web
>>>> content. What is download it is simply a special user agent.
>>>
>>> A lot of things can be sent via HTTP.  Remote Desktop can be run over
>>> HTTP -- through a special user agent.  This definition might include a
>>> lot of things we haven't considered.  PhoneGap wraps web content that
>>> uses HTTP.  So does that make PhoneGap a user agent?
>>>
>>> Jonathan
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gregg Vanderheiden RTF [mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org<mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org>]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 2:48 PM
>>> To: Laura Carlson
>>> Cc: w3c-waI-gl@w3. org; public-low-vision-a11y-tf; James Nurthen
>>> Subject: Re: Is Java Web Start covered by WCAG?
>>>
>>> Can't quite tell from your description. If it is downloaded and installed
>>> and then run it is not the web application.
>>>
>>> If when it is run it uses HTTP to get its content then it is web content.
>>> What is download it is simply a special user agent.
>>>
>>>> From your description it isn't quite clear which of the two cases it is
>>>
>>> Gregg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com<mailto:laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> James asked on Oracle's Adapting Text comment [1] if Java Web Start
>>>> [2] [3] is covered by WCAG.  He said, "The application is started from
>>>> a URL and the application is downloaded, installed updated and run
>>>> directly when clicking on a URL in a web page."
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_222-23issuecomment-2D297476165&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=qCcV_q2_pBoCNU0qmktn3O6iqXJUvRJvTOx3FVtJRZU&e=

>>>>
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Java-5FWeb-5FStart&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=ucxbJAZcLaQyGWHQAB4dxyvx_9w3C2uajdYaFXtvIWw&e=

>>>>
>>>> [3]
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.java.com_en_download_faq_java-5Fwebstart.xml&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=ELX2morANsauwtoroVrFb2wD7s1u7PsR47DTXqRvJ34&m=IAo8TM-kAptGWdSD9HSxzH9qhNNtNWsGxUTs3R1wsjw&s=cPjasa_fhYvGiueGWfxz6G5pSOhMMmEgajnrJA6lFr8&e=

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