Re: (WCAG 2.1) Do we want to replace ​"programmatically determined link context" in 2.4.4 with "Accessible Name"?

Hi David,

What about a person with low vision who does not use AT?

Kindest regards,
Laura

On 7/19/16, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How about this?
>
> Accessible Name
> ​: ​
> The accessible name is the name of a user interface element. Each platform
> accessibility API provides the accessible name property. The value of the
> accessible name may be derived from a visible (e.g., the visible text in a
> link) or invisible (e.g., alternate text that reports to the accessible
> name) property of the user interface element.
>
> Adapted from https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/terms
>
>
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> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Agree
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David MacDonald
>>
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>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Katie Haritos-Shea <ryladog@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like this idea, but, only if we have a very clear defonition of
>>> Accessible Name that makes it clear it is not limited to the ARIA usage.
>>>
>>> Katie Haritos-Shea
>>> 703-371-5545
>>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2016 9:14 AM, "David MacDonald" <david100@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ***This is proposed for version 2.1. NOT for 2.0 ***
>>>>
>>>> Do we want to consider replacing
>>>> ​"
>>>> programmatically determined link context" with "Accessible name" in
>>>> 2.4.4.
>>>>
>>>> This will simplify the requirement, eliminate that awkward definition
>>>> that few developers understood, and ensure that when screen reader
>>>> users
>>>> pull up a list of links on on conforming page, they will not get "learn
>>>> more" etc... because screen readers provide the accessible name in the
>>>> links list, not just the link text. So an aria-label or aria-labelledby
>>>> will render a meaningful text in the list. AccessibleName wasn't well
>>>> understood or supported back in 2006-2008.
>>>>
>>>> ===Current===
>>>>
>>>> 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context): The purpose of each link can be
>>>> determined from the link text alone or from the link text together with
>>>> its
>>>> ​​
>>>> programmatically determined link context, except where the purpose of
>>>> the link would be ambiguous to users in general. (Level A)
>>>>
>>>> ​=== Proposal change===
>>>>
>>>> 2.4.4 Link Purpose (In Context): The purpose of each link can be
>>>> determined from the link text alone or Accessible Name, except where
>>>> the
>>>> purpose of the link would be ambiguous to users in general. (Level A)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> David MacDonald
>>>>
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Laura L. Carlson

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