Re: Thoughts on pull request?

I did a usability study of a site that used the value “breadcrumb” to label a nav element and screen reader users didn’t recognize it as an interface element. They knew the Hansel and Gretel story, which gave a sense for what it might mean. But it wasn’t like, Oh, that’s one of those things you use to navigate the information structure. And no one used it.

The visible “You are here” is a great label, and I agree with Paul that the best approach would be to use the visible label to provide a programmatic label for the element.

Best,
Sarah

Sarah Horton
UX Strategy Lead
The Paciello Group
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> On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:
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> It looks like the label was added in response to the suggestion that there might be more than one navigation on a page and the label would help differentiate them for the user: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2015JulSep/0194.html
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> I’m happy to remove it as I wouldn’t fail a page for not having the aria-label, and I’m happy keeping it as I also wouldn’t fail a page for using “breadcrumbs” or “location”.
> 
> Thanks,
> AWK
> 
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
> Adobe 
> 
> akirkpat@adobe.com
> http://twitter.com/awkawk
> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility
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> From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com>
> Date: Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:57
> To: "paul.adam@deque.com" <paul.adam@deque.com>
> Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on pull request?
> 
> Yes, if at all needed, using aria-labelledby would be a good idea.
> Thanks,
> Srini
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, Deque
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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Paul J. Adam <paul.adam@deque.com> wrote:
>> How about “Current Page” ? :) 
>> 
>> I do agree there’s no need for an aria-label or a better idea would be to use aria-labelledby and point to the ID of the “you are here” string. 
>> 
>> Paul J. Adam
>> Accessibility Evangelist 
>> www.deque.com
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu.chakravarthula@deque.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Andrew et al,
>>> I am not sure if there is a real need for a label here when there is already info stating "You are here" which is more meaningful than "breadcrumb" or "location". 
>>> 
>>> I agree with Josh that location in general means to a geographical location and that's what users would assume specially there is a lot of location use in apps today. So even "Current location" as suggested by my friend Paul would also be confusing. Sorry Paul... 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Srini
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>>> Sr. Accessibility Consultant, Deque
>>> Hand phone: +91 709 380 3855
>>> 
>>> Deque University | Follow me on Twitter | Connect on LinkedIn | About Me
>>> 
>>> Technology is a gift to everyone; let's create inclusive digital experience
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Paul J. Adam <paul.adam@deque.com> wrote:
>>>> I would say something like “Current Location”. 
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t think that “Breadcrumbs” is a plain language term that non-developer folks know what it means in terms of a web site. 
>>>> 
>>>> Paul J. Adam
>>>> Accessibility Evangelist 
>>>> www.deque.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this may we be editorial, but what do people think – is “location” better than “breadcrumbs” in this example?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/pull/142/files?diff=split
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> AWK
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>>>>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>>>>> Adobe 
>>>>> 
>>>>> akirkpat@adobe.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>>>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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