- From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:26:07 +0000
- To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
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Ø Agree that we could drop the abbr. WCAG indicates leetspeak as non-text content. non-text content any content that is not a sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#programmaticallydetermineddef> or where the sequence is not expressing something in human language<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#human-langdef> Note: This includes ASCII Art<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#asciiartdef> (which is a pattern of characters), emoticons, leetspeak (which uses character substitution), and images representing text So, I’d want to make sure we have a replacement example/technique available if we plan to remove it. Jonathan -- Jonathan Avila Chief Accessibility Officer SSB BART Group jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com<mailto:jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com> 703-637-8957 (o) Follow us: Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/#%21/ssbbartgroup> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/#%21/SSBBARTGroup> | LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/355266?trk=tyah> | Blog<http://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog> | Newsletter<http://eepurl.com/O5DP> From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:29 PM To: Steve Faulkner Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: H86: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, emoticons, and leetspeak Agree that we could drop the abbr. It's kind of a hack, and JAWS has abbr support turned off by default, so the abbr may not even speak. Cheers, David MacDonald CanAdapt Solutions Inc. Tel: 613.235.4902 LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> www.Can-Adapt.com<http://www.Can-Adapt.com> Adapting the web to all users Including those with disabilities If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy<http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>> wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/H86.html suggest adding ARIA-fied example (from html5 spec) <figure role="img" aria-labelledby="fish-caption" <pre> o .'`/ ' / ( O .-'` ` `'-._ .') _/ (o) '. .' / ) ))) >< < `\ |_\ _.' '. \ '-._ _ .-' '.) jgs `\__\ </pre> <figcaption id="fish-caption"> <cite>Joan G. Stark, "fish"</cite>. October 1997. ASCII on electrons. 28×8. </figcaption> </figure> Also question the use of <abbr> in this technique: <abbr title="Austin Rocks">Au5t1N r0xx0rz</abbr> -- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
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