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RE: H86: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, emoticons, and leetspeak

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 23:26:07 +0000
To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
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Ø  Agree that we could drop the abbr.

WCAG indicates leetspeak as non-text content.

non-text content
any content that is not a sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#programmaticallydetermineddef> or where the sequence is not expressing something in human language<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#human-langdef>  Note: This includes ASCII Art<http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#asciiartdef> (which is a pattern of characters), emoticons, leetspeak (which uses character substitution), and images representing text

So, I’d want to make sure we have a replacement example/technique available if we plan to remove it.


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From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:29 PM
To: Steve Faulkner
Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: Re: H86: Providing text alternatives for ASCII art, emoticons, and leetspeak

Agree that we could drop the abbr. It's kind of a hack, and JAWS has abbr support turned off by default, so the abbr may not even speak.


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On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>> wrote:

suggest adding ARIA-fied example (from html5 spec)

<figure role="img" aria-labelledby="fish-caption"
   o           .'`/
     '      /  (
   O    .-'` ` `'-._      .')
      _/ (o)        '.  .' /
      )       )))     ><  <
      `\  |_\      _.'  '. \
        '-._  _ .-'       '.)
    jgs     `\__\
   <figcaption id="fish-caption">
    <cite>Joan G. Stark, "fish"</cite>.
    October 1997. ASCII on electrons. 28×8.

Also question the use of <abbr> in this technique:
<abbr title="Austin Rocks">Au5t1N r0xx0rz</abbr>


HTML 5.1<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

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