- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:13:17 -0600
- To: 'David MacDonald' <befree@magma.ca>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Message-id: <00a601c82b98$a479d3d0$5e0b2148@NC84301>
Correct - and very nice. Thanks David. I struggled a long time on that and didn't see it. Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. _____ From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of David MacDonald Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:56 AM To: 'Gregg Vanderheiden'; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: RE: 1.4.3 I was confused when I first read "where no minimum contrast is required" it made the sentence long and hard to parse. I thought that the word "where" was the beginning of a conditional phrase. If #2 is an exception then the 5:1 ratio doesn't apply and we needn't say "where no minimum contrast is required." If necessary we could clarify it in the understanding. How about: =============== 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum): Text <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#textdef> and images of text have a contrast ratio <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#contrast-ratiodef> of at least 5:1, except for 1)large-scale <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#larger-scaledef> text and images of text that have a contrast ratio of at least 3:1, and 2)text or images of text that are part of an inactive user interface component, that are pure decoration <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#puredecdef> , that are incidental text in an image <> , or that are not visible to anyone. (Level AA) How to Meet 1.4.3 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20071102/Overview.php#visual-audio-co ntrast-contrast> Understanding <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20071102/visual-aud io-contrast-contrast.html> 1.4.3 Definition: incidental text in an image Proposed: Text that is inconsequential to the meaning of the image. Example: In a photo of two men talking on a street corner, there is a sign on a store in the background. access empowers people... ...barriers disable them... www.eramp.com From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:07 PM To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: FW: 1.4.3 In doing a consistency review of 1.4.3 I noted how complex it had become and how different than our past version or the TEITAC version. Current form of 1.4.3 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum): Text <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#textdef> and images of text have a contrast ratio <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#contrast-ratiodef> of at least 5:1, and large-scale <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#larger-scaledef> text and images of text have a contrast ratio of at least 3:1, except for the following: (Level AA) How to Meet 1.4.3 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20071102/Overview.php#visual-audio-co ntrast-contrast> Understanding <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20071102/visual-aud io-contrast-contrast.html> 1.4.3 * Inactive User Interface: If text content is part of an inactive user interface component, then no minimum contrast requirement applies. * Decoration or Incidental: If text content is pure decoration <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#puredecdef> , or is incidental text in an image, then no minimum contrast requirement applies. * Invisible: If text is not visible to anyone, then no minimum contrast requirement applies. Note: Success Criteria 1.4.3 and 1.4.5 can be met via a contrast control available on or from the page. There is a lot of redundancy. Also we want to harmonize with TEITAC if we can Here is their version TEITAC VERSION Except for large-scale text, presentation of text (and images of text) in electronic documents must have a default contrast ratio of at least 5:1, except if the text is unavailable items or pure decoration. Large-scale text (or images of large-scale text) can allow a contrast ratio of at least 3:1. NEW PROPOSED VERSION How about the following. 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum): Text <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#textdef> and images of text have a contrast ratio <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#contrast-ratiodef> of at least 5:1, except for 3)large-scale <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#larger-scaledef> text and images of text that have a contrast ratio of at least 3:1, and 4)text or images of text that are part of an inactive user interface component, that are pure decoration <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#puredecdef> , that are incidental text in an image, or that are not visible to anyone, where no minimum contrast is required. (Level AA) How to Meet 1.4.3 <http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20071102/Overview.php#visual-audio-co ntrast-contrast> Understanding <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20071102/visual-aud io-contrast-contrast.html> 1.4.3 Note: Success Criteria 1.4.3 and 1.4.5 can be met via a contrast control available on or from the page. This should not change the meaning but should clean it up a lot. Gregg ------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr. Director - Trace R & D Center University of Wisconsin-Madison < <http://trace.wisc.edu/> http://trace.wisc.edu/> FAX 608/262-8848 DSS Player at http://tinyurl.com/dho6b If Attachement is a mail.dat try <http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/> http://www.kopf.com.br/winmail/ <http://trace.wisc.edu:8080/mailman/listinfo/>
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