- From: Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:11:12 +0200
- To: WAI-GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Lectoribus salutem, I have compared the remaining open issues for GL 2.2 against the latest draft (the 16 June editor's draft) to determine which we can close. 1. Issues that are closed (8) 803 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=803] Example not applicable [server-side timeouts?] See the new L3 SC3 accepted at F2F (which also covers server-side time outs and which closes issue 1525). The example is now applicable. [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02] 1346 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1346] 1381 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1381] L1 SC: time limits conflict with usability L1 SC proposal "Content does not have time-outs unless they are an essential part of the interaction. (etc.)" was rejected in 26 May 2005 teleconference [http://www.w3.org/2005/05/26-wai-wcag-minutes.html#resolutions]. 1347 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1347] 1382 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1382] L2 SC: conflicts with usability 26 May 2005 teleconference: blinking will not be banned. June 2005 F2F discussion: proposal to reword SC on blinking accepted [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02]. 1499 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1499] L2 SC1 - describe functional outcome Addressed by new wording of L2 SC1 accepted at June 2005 F2F [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02]. 1502 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1502] L3 SC2 - describe functional outcome and improve readability Addressed by new wording of L3 SC2 accepted during 26 May 2005 teleconference [http://www.w3.org/2005/05/26-wai-wcag-minutes.html#resolutions]. 1525 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1525] coverage of inactivity timeout Addressed by new L3 SC3 accepted at June 2005 F2F [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02]. 2. Issues that seem to be closed, but may need clarification (8) 943 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=943] L1 SC1: Why 10 times the default? 1092 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1092] Time limits in Guideline 2.2 are still too small. June 2005 F2F discussion: "10 times" was based on experiences with people with motor disabilities / by talking to relevant population. E.g. keyboard repeat. Action item: Find references [http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]. 1044 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1044] Suggestions for time-limits guideline [L1 (ten times the default) and L2 SC 2 (blinking)] For "ten times": see issue 943 (clarification). Blinking: addressed by reworded L2 SC1 (accepted at F2F: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/16-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02) in 16 June editor's draft, with resolution to explain "3 seconds" in the Guide doc. 1348 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1348] 1383 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1383] L3 SC: conflicts with usability (allowing the option that the user can postpone non-emergency interruptions such as updating of content is requiring more effort than necessary from the user) 26 May 2005 teleconference: new wording for L3 SC2 [http://www.w3.org/2005/05/26-wai-wcag-minutes.html#resolutions]. This addresses the issue but does not clarify the level at which interruptions can be postponed: each instance, whole delivery unit, whole site? 1349 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1349] Example 2 conflicts with usability (option to turn off updating of content) 1385 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1385] Non-default user settings harm accessibility [example 2] 26 May 2005 teleconference: having updating of content turned off by default and providing the option to turn it on in "user preferences" may not provide greater usability. These two issues depend on resolutions for issues 1348 and 1383 (L3 SC2). 1384 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1384] example ("dialog that disappears after a short period") conflicts with guideline? "Level 1 Success Criteria for Guideline 2.2 itself uses a warning which times out after at least 10 seconds. Is this not conflicting?" The time in the current draft(s) is 20 seconds, but the question is still relevant. However, I don't see a conflict; it is just an example of something that has to meet the L1 SC. 3. Issues that are not addressed in current draft (4) 880 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=880#c3] Should blinking and movement be covered? Last comment in Bugzilla says: "Proposal accepted in November 4, 2004 telecon [1] and included in November 19, 2004 working draft [2]. This issue shoud already be covered by UAAG. Pending baseline decisions, move success criterion 2 to repair strategies." 26 May 2005 telecon [http://www.w3.org/2005/05/26-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item05]: Yes, but we need a proposal. Blinking is already covered. Where movement refers to live presentations, this is a user agent issue. 987 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=987] Add people who use an interpreter to the benefits The current wording (November draft; June resolutions draft) differs from wording on which was comments was based, but does not address the issue. Do we want to add this benefit? Note that the second benefit was reworded after the November draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-WCAG20-20041119/#id4514405). 1432 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1432] unsolicited transitions confuse [new benefit for elderly and people with low computer literacy] Resolution from 26 May 2005 teleconference: discuss this benefit on the mailing list: see thread starting at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2005AprJun/0670.html. Earlier, a decision was made to only include benefits that related specifically to people with disabilities. This decision might be amended to allow for more attention to older users, but no decision has been taken yet. 1459 [http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=1459] time limits should not apply to testing [US ADA / Section 504 allows extensions even for time-based testing as a disability accommodation] This was discussed during the 26 May 2005 teleconference. The fact that Section 504 requires more than WCAG was not considered as a problem; the reverse may have been. One comment in the survey said: 'As I read the proposed SC, it would permit the kind of extended time-limits required by Section 504. Even if a time limit is "an essential" part of an activity such as an examination, the ability to extend it to comply with applicable law is also "an essential" part of the activity.' At the F2F, the WG agreed to keep the wording of L1 SC1, so this issue is not addressed. I'll come up with a proposal later. Regards, Christophe Strobbe -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Departement of Electrical Engineering - Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 - 3001 Leuven-Heverlee - BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/
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