- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:33:51 -0500
- To: "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org>, "WAI-GL" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
John Slatin, then Joe Clark:
<blockquote>
> I think the problem is that the *line* isn't semantically significant
> when you're quoting.
It's much more semantically significant if you and your correspondents
use
mailers that support flowed text, like Eudora, M2, Thunderbird, Apple
Mail, and-- wait for it!-- Hotmail.
</blockquote>
Well, maybe so. I stopped using Eudora in 1996 because a new release had
come out that didn't play nicely with JAWS. I can't use Thunderbird
because there's no screen reader support. I don't know what M2 is. And I
don't use Hotmail because I've never been able to get past the capcha.
"Good design is accessible design."
John Slatin, Ph.D.
Director, Accessibility Institute
University of Texas at Austin
FAC 248C
1 University Station G9600
Austin, TX 78712
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email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu
web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/
-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Joe Clark
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:18 am
To: WAI-GL
Subject: RE: Accessible quotation style in email (was Re: HTML messages)
First of all, it's much more important that Working Group members cease
top-posting.
You can turn off HTML in Outlook and force Outlook to use what is
euphemistically called "Internet-style quoting":
<http://email.about.com/cs/oetipstricks/qt/et012401_p.htm>
<http://www.expita.com/nomime.html#out2002>
<http://www.slipstick.com/mail1/quote.htm>
> As I pointed out to someone who wrote me off-list, the print world has
> had effective conventions for handling quotations for a whole lot
longer
> than email has had them.
Print conventions are inapplicable.
> I think the problem is that the *line* isn't semantically significant
> when you're quoting.
It's much more semantically significant if you and your correspondents
use
mailers that support flowed text, like Eudora, M2, Thunderbird, Apple
Mail, and-- wait for it!-- Hotmail.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On
> Behalf Of David Dorward
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:11 am
> To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
> Subject: Accessible quotation style in email (was Re: HTML messages)
And we see that John unnecessarily top-posts text that was already
correctly quoted.
And yes, we need an automatic converter from at least flowed text to
blockquote, as I called for previously:
<http://blog.fawny.org/2004/11/06/flowed/>
--
Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org
Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/>
--This.
--What's wrong with top-posting?
Received on Monday, 25 April 2005 16:33:59 UTC