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Re: [TECHS] Object tag test files.

From: Doyle-Work <dburnett@sesa.org>
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:40:47 -0800
To: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>, David MacDonald <befree@magma.ca>
CC: W3C Web Content <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <BE7AB09F.5357%dburnett@sesa.org>

To The Group -

What I believe David is saying (David, please correct me if I am wrong) is
that test suites, not unlike web content in a general sense should be
accessible as though it/they too were WCAG compliant.

> Do you really mean test *suites*? Because we have those.
> <http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/>

Are the above test suites WCAG compliant?  I looked at one link:


(this was #1. Under Images on that page.  The test suite did not have the
image of the dog alt tagged, thus the suite did not conform to WCAG.  Plus,
on a few other suites, my browser told me there was a needed "plug-in" and I
had no clue what plug-in was needed - again, not accessible content by the
current WCAG 2.0 working draft.

So, in part, I do not think David is saying, test suites do not exist or
cannot exist but more likely that he'd (and I agree) like to see the suites
(where at ALL possible) be accessible themselves. I agree that test suites
that are NOT accessible send the wrong messages to developers.  And, I
believe developers will take notice of "our" materials and hold us
accountable to the standards that we'd like to think developers were holding
themselves accountable to.

My thoughts -


Doyle Burnett
Education and Training Specialist
Multiple Disabilities Program
Special Education Service Agency

On 4/7/05 9:04 AM, "Joe Clark" <joeclark@joeclark.org> wrote:

>> I was given the task to review tests that apply to the object tag. #75,
>> 76, 77, 78 79, 27, 128, 129, 183.
> Do you really mean test *suites*? Because we have those.
> <http://www.student.oulu.fi/~sairwas/object-test/>
>> In general I have a problem with tests that are designed to pass a certain
>> accessibility principle but are inaccessible in other respects.
> Such as?
> No captions on multimedia? What?
>> Can we not create passing test files that are WCAG compliant in other
>> respects.
> Do you refer to using object and embed in valid HTML?
> <http://joeclark.org/access/captioning/bpoc/embed-object.html>
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