- From: Kerstin Goldsmith <kerstin.goldsmith@oracle.com>
- Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 17:10:44 -0700
- To: Kerstin Goldsmith <kerstin.goldsmith@oracle.com>
- CC: wcag <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4140F104.9060304@oracle.com>
Links to Jason's characteristics post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0518.html Cheers, -Kerstin Kerstin Goldsmith wrote: > Folks, > > I agreed to an action item last week during a small sub-group meeting > meant for brainstorming the "conformance profile" idea. I think it's > a valid exercise to try to come up with live examples of different > kinds of web content implementations (see the list below) - both on > intranets and on the internet - in order to then apply our current > working draft success criteria to them to see if there are, in fact, > as some people have posited, certain kinds of web content where > specific success criteria should not/would not apply. The biggest > "type" of web content in question, or at least the one getting the > most press on the phone and on the list, is the "intranet web > application using lots of javascript and relying on specific versions > of browsers and AT to run accessibly" that SAP, Oracle, MS, and IBM > have brought up. One of the goals of the exercise will be to come up > with a matrix based on profiles of success criteria applicability. I > do not believe that the only goal of the exercise will be to list > conformance profiles just as "types," however -- it's possible that > the exercise will lead us to very different outcomes, one of which > could be Jason's proposal to group profiles according to > characteristics rather than "types." Still, working from real > examples will allow us some insight into applicability of the WCAG 2.0 > success criteria, and will allow us to further debate different > possible types of conformance. > > So, here's what I am looking for: > - volunteers to add to the list of live examples below > - volunteers to create matrices of wcag 2.0 sc applicability to > the examples > - volunteers to possibly link the above to Jason's list of > characteristics > - volunteers to think of other possible ways to group different > web content, or different applicability of wcag 2.0 sc??? > > Once we have volunteers, maybe we can meet and divy the work according > to peoples' preferences? > > Looking forward to comments and volunteers, > Cheers, > -Kerstin > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Brainstorming about conformance profiles > Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:47:47 -0700 > From: Kerstin Goldsmith <kerstin.goldsmith@oracle.com> > Organization: Oracle Corporation > To: wendy@w3.org > CC: Alex Li <alex.li@sap.com>, JasonW > <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, Michael Cooper > <michaelc@watchfire.com>, Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com>, > Becky Gibson <Becky_Gibson@notesdev.ibm.com>, Gez Lemon > <gl@juicystudio.com> > References: <412E645E.7080101@w3.org> <4133530A.4000407@w3.org> > > > > In the spirit of trying to just send out what I was able to come up > with in half an hour, here is a start: > > Possible Types of Conformance Profiles with real live examples: > > > > - Documentation: > > Oracle Online Documentation for JDeveloper 10g: > > http://helponline.oracle.com/jdeveloper/help/state?navSetId=jdeveloper&navId=0&destination= > > > - "Simple" Website: > > is there any such thing as a plain website anymore? > > Access Board: > http://www.access-board.gov/ > > > - Web Applications: > > A true corporate/enterprise application often runs only on > intranets -- it replaces client-server technology with web technology, > such that financials, HR, timesheets, etc.. are all managed through a > browser and a central webserver .... I cannot find an externally > available example of this .... Alex, Andi, anyone? > > > - Newspapers, News sites, Magazines: > > CNN > AOL > NY Times > Economist > > > > - Email > > Hotmail > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - Blogs > > > > - Wikis > > http://www.Wikipedia.com > > > - Search Engines > > Google > http://www.google.com > > Yahoo > http://www.yahoo.com > > > - e-commerce: > > AMAZON.COM, of course > http://www.amazon.com > > eBay > http://www.eba > > > - Libraries > > Library of Congress: > http://www.loc.gov/ > > Telaviv University Library: > http://www.tau.ac.il/cenlib/index_eng.shtml > > > - Huge Corporate Website Portals -- Informational versus > e-commerce > > Sony > http://sony.com/ > > Oracle > http://www.oracle.com/index.html > > > - Research databases > > http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/ > > > Followup questions: > - Can these be broken out into characteristics ... per Jason's > suggestion? > > - How do the guidelines apply to these? > > Wendy, let me know how you would like to proceed -- I can take one of > the above action items, but again, timeline???? > > Wendy Chisholm wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Here is the information for today's call: >> 10:00 PM UTC (6:00 PM New York, 11:00 PM London, Tuesday 8:00 AM >> Melbourne) >> Phone: +1.617.761.6200, conference 83261 >> IRC: irc.w3.org:6665 #wai-wcag >> >> Related reading: >> 1. Jason's message from Saturday >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JulSep/0490.html> >> >> 2. "baseline" as previously used in Guideline 4.2 >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-WCAG20-20030624/#declare-technology> >> >> 3. "Questions related to device capabilities" >> Issue 214. Closed. Reopen? >> <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=214> >> >> 4. 'ambiguity with "widely" available and use of "baseline"' >> Issue 444. Closed. Reopen? >> <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=444> >> >> 5. 'Keyboard access for devices that have no AT' >> Issue 244. Open. >> <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=244> >> >> 6. 'Divvying up responsibility for keyboard access' >> Issue 561. Open. >> <http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=561> >> >> 7. User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 >> Section 3.1 Conformance profiles >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/conformance.html#conformance-profiles> >> >> 8. Mobile SVG Profiles: SVG Tiny and SVG Basic >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVGMobile-20030114/> >> discuss conformance in appendix: >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVGMobile-20030114/#sec-conformance> >> >> 9. XHTML Abstract Modules (modules - similar to profiles?) >> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xhtml-modularization-20010410/abstract_modules.html#s_xhtmlmodules> >> >> >> Best, >> --wendy >>
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