RE: AGENDA JULY 8th

Regrets-- I'll be running an accessiblity training this afternoon.

John

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From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Gregg Vanderheiden
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:47 pm
To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Subject: AGENDA JULY 8th




Time: 20:00 UTC
(4 PM US Eastern, 10 PM France, 8 AM Friday Eastern Australia)
Number:  +1-617-761-6200, passcode 9224 irc.w3.org 6665, channel #wai-wcag

Our agenda items are below.
 
PLEASE READ and think about these items in advance so we can knock em off. 

Also, the topics for the Face-to-Face are posted at the end of this message. If you have anything else you think should be addressed let us know.

See you Thursday

Item 1:
[#891] 2.1 level 3 rewording
Goal: Adopt new wording - or identify issues.
Introduction by: Gregg Vanderheiden <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0690.html> 


Item 2:
[#829] Linear reading order should be level 1

Goal: Harvest issues. Get suggested solutions that address the issues. Reach consensus in this meeting or end up with an action item for refinement of proposal?

Introduction by: Michael Cooper <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0723.html> 
* TTF thought linearization of page (2.4) should be level 1 - currently level 3 
* Some agreement on list
* Rebuttal that Web is a transformative medium and expecting an author-provided linearization is meaningless


Item 3:
[#830] Requirement for page title should be level 2 or level 1

Goal: Harvest issues. Get suggested solutions that address the issues. Reach consensus in this meeting or end up with an action item for refinement of proposal?

Introduction by: Michael Cooper <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0726.html> 
* Guideline 2.4 has a level 3 SC that says, among other things, a document title was considered. TTF thought providing the title should simply be expected, not considered. Also guideline 3.2 has a level 2 SC that page titles should be informative. Requirement to provide title should be at least as high as requirement to make it informative.
* Question whether all forms of content have a titlable "page" to which this can be applied


Item 4:
[#831] Structural emphasis evident really a user agent issue?

Goal: Resolve to remove the level 3 criterion? Action item to refine the criterion?

Introduction by: Michael Cooper <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0728.html> 
* Guideline 2.4 has a level 3 SC that structural emphasis must be evident on various low-fiedlity display. TTF thought that if author follows requirement to provide semantic markup, the styling would be a UA issue and can't necessarily be impacted by author action, short of designing for and testing dozens of UAs.
* Suggestion that existence of CSS is a case in point that the boundary between author responsibility and UA responsibility in this case may be a gray area. Unsure where to draw an arbitary line that includes or excludes this requirement in WCAG.



Topics for July 2004 Face to Face 

- conformance, scoping
- tying documents together; design and flow of materials; links to html, css, and general techniques from wcag 2.0
- checklists (normative vs informative)
- checklists form and format
- 1.0 to 2.0 migration
- Ideas for Next draft
   1.1
   1.2
   Conformance text
   migrating from 1.0 to 2.0 text
   overview of documents and how they fit together. an image?
   links to techniqes/gateway
   other issues from bugzilla  
   numbering success criteria
- planning and next steps

For Thursday and Friday techniques discussion
- checklists
- linking between documents
- prepping html techniques for publication
- prepping general techniques for publication
- prepping css techniques for publication?
- prepping gateway/traffic cop for publication
- testing and test suites

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