- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:22:07 -0500 (EST)
- To: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Gregg Vanderheiden wrote:
>Hi all
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> We have a really big teleconf call coming up this week.
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>Time: 2100 UTC (4 PM US Eastern, 10 PM France, 8 AM Friday Eastern
>Australia)
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>Number: +1-617-761-6200, passcode 9224
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>irc.w3.org 6665, channel #wai-wcag
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>If we want to have a TR draft out before CSUN (and we NEED to)
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>And we want to be able to have a week to look at the draft ourselves before
>we post it (which we also need to do)
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>Then we have to finish up all the edit approvals this Thursday.
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>And we have a lot of them to do - or we have to roll back all the
>suggestions and rewordings etc till we have a clean doc - which is a ways
>back.
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>Fortunately we have had a lot of discussion and suggestions - and Ben and I
>did clean up proposals on the last 3 that didn't get covered.
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>In order for us to clear all this though - we are going to all have to read
>through the proposals BEFORE THE MEETING. Then we can just make edits and
>notations at the meetings based on what people find - rather than walking
>through the documents line by line on the call.
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>So here is the agenda - immediately after the procedure we will be using
>this week.
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>PROCEDURE
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> Since we have so much to do - here is the procedure we worked out to
>tackle this this week.
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>1) Everyone read the proposals in advance of the meeting. This is a lot
>of work but much less than the people who put them all together.
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>2) Send any comments, issues, and (PLEASE!) suggestions to the list
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>3) At 3 pm EASTERN (one hour before the call) we will pull the items
>from the list and compile them.
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>4) At the meeting we will try to work as quickly as possible to identify
>all the items that are all "good enough to out as a working draft" and get
>them approved and off the table.
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>5) Then we will tackle all the items that had postings against them that
>require discussion. The discussions will be time limited - based on how
>many items we have and how much time there is.
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>a. The first goal will be to try to find wording to solve the problem.
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>b. If this can be done quickly - then we will find words to express the
>problem and put that in the document instead. Then move on
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>6) If we get stuck and cannot do a) or b) quickly - we will put the item
>on a list (sometimes called a bone yard - don't know why) to come back to
>later in meeting.
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>7) We WILL get through. We have to. But we can only do this if people
>READ and SEND COMMENTS in ADVANCE. Issues raised at the meeting will be
>noted and handled at end of meeting.
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>Please read everything in advance
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>Please send in your comments before 3 eastern on Thursday
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>Pease make suggestions for fixing issues you identify.
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>Remember the goal is not to get this perfect. The goal is to get a document
>that is clean enough that we can send it out for public review to get their
>input as well. That means clean up what we can and make notations where we
>know we have problems or things to work out.
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>We are behind schedule and we've pushed ourselves up against the wall. But
>we can do it.
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>The links for the items are below - as is the link for the Feb 14th draft -
>that the comments proposals are applied against.
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>AGENDA
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>1) Items that no one has concern about (if any).
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>a. Find out what we have consensus on and get them off our plate
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>b. {see list of items to cover - immediately below}
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>2) What do we want the principles to be (they are now inconsistent)
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> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0361.html
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>3) Are we happy with the combination of 1.4, 3.1, 3.2, and 3.3 into one
>guideline
> (just yes - no question first)
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>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0340.html
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>4) If yes - then are there any changes to be made to 3.1 (that we didn't
>get to last week)
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>[Same link as above]
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>5) Next are discussions on those items that people sent in discussion
>points on.
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>a. {see list of items to cover - immediately below}
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>b. The items will be compiled from comments sent in up to 3pm eastern
>Thursday
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>6) Guideline 3.2 - handling last since we don't have a proposal yet -
>and this one looks like a really tough one.
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>7) Any other Questions - and items on the 'bone yard' list from today's
>discussion.
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>Items to cover in meeting
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>The following proposals are based on the Feb 14th Draft which is at
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><http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20040214.html>
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>1) Edits to Principles
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0361.html>
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>2) Edits to Front matter
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0364.html>
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>3) Guideline 1.2
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0366.html>
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>4) Guideline 1.3
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0342.html>
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0345.html>
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0347.html>
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>5) Guideline 2.3
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0346.html>
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0354.html>
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>6) Guideline 2.4
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0367.html>
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>7) Guideline 2.5
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0368.html>
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>8) Guideline 3.1
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0340.html>
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0369.html>
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>9) Guideline 3.2 (Was 3.4)
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>[NOT YET POSTED TO LIST]
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>10) Appendix E
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>[NOT YET POSTED TO LIST]
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>11) Appendix F (goes with
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> [NOT YET POSTED TO LIST]
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>12) Normative Formatting
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> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004JanMar/0363.html>
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>Gregg
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>Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
>Professor - Depts of Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
>Director - Trace R & D Center
>University of Wisconsin-Madison
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