- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:27:01 -0600
- To: "Yvette P. Hoitink" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>, "WAI WCAG List" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I think Yvette's right; as Joe Clark has pointed out (often) in the past, the fact that IE won't allow users to enlarge fonts specified in px is primarily a user agent problem, though for the time being it has implications for content. So the Techniques documents should acknowledge the problem and encourage use of relative sizes, while the user agent issue should be addressed as well. "Good design is accessible design." Please note our new name and URL! John Slatin, Ph.D. Director, Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/ -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette P. Hoitink Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:43 am To: 'Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG'; 'WAI WCAG List' Subject: RE: CSS Accessibility Analyzer > Jens: > > Well, I'm not very convinced of these techniques. Absolute > units are not > to > be equated with inaccessibility. > > Roberto: > Instead I agree with techniques doc where said: "Only use absolute > length units when the physical characteristics of the output medium > are known, such as bitmap images." > > If u create a div with width=750px; u make problems to people with > differen resolutions than 800 x 600 or more... But is a resolution for which the page was not designed an accessibility problem? I don't think so, it's just bad design with some usability problems. If you want to ban bad design, you've got your work cut out for you... Also, in your example, setting the width using relative units (for example 15em) doesn't eliminate the problem as em is not relative to the resolution. People with small resolutions will get a horizontal scrollbar with a 15em width just as easily as if you specify a 750px width. I agree with Jens, only some absolute units cause accessibility problems. The most important case being the font size. But even for that, I think it's as much a user agent problem as it is a web content problem. I think we should encourage content creators to use relative units for font size, but WAI should also stimulate user agent creators to favor the user preference over the font size specified by the page. In other words, even on a page that says 10px for font size, my browser should enlarge the text if I set my font size preferences to larger. Yvette Hoitink CEO Heritas, Enschede, The Netherlands E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl
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