Re: action item: clarified definition of keyboard interface

I have recast my earlier post to the list using some of the attributes (and words) suggested by GV :

"In the context of WCAG 2.0 Guideline 2.1, keyboard interface refers to a feature of a device (like a computer or cell phone)  that allows it to be controlled or text to be entered by connecting an alternate keyboard compatible  with the device. It includes   an onscreen keyboard that is external to the user agent  and is capable of entering text in a fashion indistinguishable from a physical keyboard ."

Well my concerns are:
-need to guard against the definition being picked up and quoted out of context. 
- In Guideline 2.1   I suppose the "keyboard" before keyboard interface  refers to the computer keyboard that is part of the device. Hence, the first sentence of the above definition uses "alternate". The next sentence does not exclude onscreen keyboards that are built into the device. I have tried to cover all features  brought out in the examples following guideline 2.1.
-In Yvette's version   and the earlier ones, the term content needs to be prefixed with "Web".
  Sailesh Panchang
  Senior Accessibility Engineer 
  Deque Systems,11180  Sunrise Valley Drive, 
  4th Floor, Reston VA 20191
  Tel: 703-225-0380 Extension 105 
  E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
  Fax: 703-225-0387
  * Look up <http://www.deque.com> *


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg Vanderheiden 
  To: 'Sailesh Panchang' ; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:51 PM
  Subject: RE: action item: clarified definition of keyboard interface


  Actually, the intent is to include on screen keyboards.    They enter text in a fashion indistinguishable from a physical keyboard.    It does not include a keyboard that is IN the web content. But it does include an on screen keyboard that is external to the 'browser' but part of the device. 




  Gregg

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  Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
  Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
  Director - Trace R & D Center 
  University of Wisconsin-Madison 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Sailesh Panchang
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:38 PM
  To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
  Subject: Re: action item: clarified definition of keyboard interface



  Hello List,

  This is my version:

  "Keyboard interface: is a feature of a device  that allows it to be controlled or text to be entered by connecting a physical keyboard compatible  with it."

   I wish to highlight  that onscreen keyboard interface like on a computer or on a PDA that requires a pointing device does not  comply with the above definition.  I believe this is the intent.

    In earlier versions I object to "as if a keyboard has been used" and am not sure what "content" is being referred to.

    Thanks,

    Sailesh Panchang
    Senior Accessibility Engineer 
    Deque Systems,11180  Sunrise Valley Drive, 
    4th Floor, Reston VA 20191
    Tel: 703-225-0380 Extension 105 
    E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
    Fax: 703-225-0387
    * Look up <http://www.deque.com> *




     

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Yvette P. Hoitink 

    To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org 

    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:14 PM

    Subject: RE: action item: clarified definition of keyboard interface




    Hello Don, Michael & list,

    Here's my 2 eurocents about Don's version:

    My (small) rewrite of Don's version becomes:
    "Keyboard interface":  On devices that do not have a built-in or attached
    keyboards, there is usually an alternate method for connecting a keyboard to
    the device for the purpose of entering text.
    Allowing control via the "keyboard interface" means that the content could
    be controlled through commands issued from the keyboard or by alternate
    entry methods that are capable of generating text as if a keyboard had been
    used.

    Yvette Hoitink
    CEO Heritas, Enschede, The Netherlands
    E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl 


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org 
    > [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Doyle Burnett
    > Sent: dinsdag 13 januari 2004 23:14
    > To: Michael Cooper; W3C Web Content
    > Subject: Re: action item: clarified definition of keyboard interface
    > 
    > 
    > Hi Michael and List -
    > 
    > Michael, here is what I came up with as a very slight tweak 
    > to your definition for "keyboard Interface".  Thanks for 
    > letting me collaborate with you on this item.  My re-write follows:
    > 
    > "Keyboard interface":  On devices that do not have a built-in 
    > or attached keyboards, there is usually an alternate method 
    > for connecting a keyboard to the device for the purpose of 
    > entering text.
    > Allowing control via the "keyboard interface" means that the 
    > content could be controlled through commands issued from the 
    > optional keyboard, other discrete input mechanisms, or by 
    > alternate entry methods that are capable of generating text 
    > as if a keyboard had been used.
    >