- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 04:09:54 -0400 (EDT)
- To: "Gian Sampson-Wild (PurpleTop)" <gian@purpletop.com.au>
- Cc: "'Yvette P. Hoitink'" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, 'WAI-GL' <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
In Australia I pay AUD 6 / hour (that's about 4 euros, and a little more than half the minimum wage, but I have no idea how many big macs) to call the US with a pretty standard subscription. There are cheaper solutions available Generally I buy a discount phone card and it costs me about 2 beers (6 in the "third world" where the beer is cheap by foreigners' standards) in a country where I don't have a real subscription. e.g. Spain: 10 euros covers 4 calls (6 hours). UK 5 pounds gets me about 2. There are also Voice over IP services for those lucky enough to have reasonable bandwidth - W3C uses it a lot for people who work from home. But I don't have the bandwidth myself. It works out at around the above-quoted prices. (The problem with the big mac standard is that while they are cheap food for poor people in the US, they are relatively more of a luxury item in some places. It works better for travellers than it does for measuring local price in local terms. And for some definition of luxury :-) cheers Chaals On Tue, 4 May 2004, Gian Sampson-Wild (PurpleTop) wrote: > > >The Netherlands - 10 Big Macs per month >Australia - 46 Big Macs per month > >-----Original Message----- >From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On >Behalf Of Yvette P. Hoitink >Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 5:12 AM >To: 'WAI-GL' >Subject: Price of WCAG attendance in Big Macs (Was RE: "You call that a >standard?" and Charter) > > >Gian wrote: > >> I, too am from a small company and can add to the discussion >> that the cost of the teleconferences (approx $30 a call) can >> sometimes be prohibitive. There is very little likelihood of >> me ever attending a face-to-face meeting, unless it is in >> Australia, and I do feel that sometimes I cannot contribute >> as much as I would like due to that fact. > >Hi Gian, > >You're absolutely right in your remark. I didn't take the telephone >costs >into account in my reaction. My WCAG phone bills used to be around 30 >USD as >well, but I now have a new carrier with an introduction offer of 1 >eurocent >per minute (about 1.2 dollarcent). > >This means the monthly cost of attending the WCAG teleconferences >(estimated >at 8 hours per month) is about 2 Big Macs for me at the moment, or 10 >Big >Macs if I used the standard phone company or once the introduction is >over. >I use the number of Big Macs to represent the purchasing power of the >WCAG >monthly phone bill in my country. Big Mac is one of the few products >that is >available in exactly the same composition worldwide, which is why it is >used >often to compare prices. > >It would be interesting to compare the number of Big Macs that 8 hours >of >phone calls to the US cost in different countries to get an idea of the >costs involved. I'll start the list: > >The Netherlands - 10 Big Macs per month > >Yvette Hoitink >Heritas, Enschede, The Netherlands >E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl >WWW: http://www.heritas.nl > > > > Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles tel: +61 409 134 136 SWAD-E http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe fax(france): +33 4 92 38 78 22 Post: 21 Mitchell street, FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia or W3C, 2004 Route des Lucioles, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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