- From: Michael Cooper <michaelc@watchfire.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:02:45 -0400
- To: "WAI GL (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
This is a summary of the Techniques Task Force Face to Face meeting in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 08 and 09 September 2003, hosted by the Adaptive Technology Resource Centre of the University of Toronto. Detailed discussion history is in IRC logs at [1] and [2]. PRESENT Ben Caldwell Alan Cantor (part of meeting) Wendy Chisholm Joe Clark Michael Cooper Tom Croucher (part of meeting, by phone) David MacDonald Chris Ridpath Roberto Scano (part of meeting, by phone) DISCUSSION We spent most of the first day of the meeting working on action items which need completion for us to publish a revised draft of the HTML Techniques. This involved cleanup of the draft, testing with user agents, and drafting content for techniques. There are a number of things we still need to do before we release a draft. We hope to have a draft ready to show the larger WCAG group by 26 September. Chris Ridpath gave a short presentation of an evaluation tool he's working on that allows the checks to be defined in an XML file. They're planning to make the tool open source and more information should be available soon. We also discussed test files, joined for part of that discussion by Jan Richards from the Authoring Tools Working Group. We looked at the characteristics of various known test suites, and also came to the conclusion that WCAG test files would substantially (although not 100%) overlap with Authoring Tools test files, allowing us to pool resources. We will want to collate test files from existing resources and expand it to meet WCAG and AU needs. Wendy has a contact who might be able to help with much of the legwork. We hope to coordinate work in a joint conference call within the next couple months. On the second day, Alan Cantor made a presentation about his work on data tables and how he explains the issues to people who aren't familiar with accessibility. His concrete recommendations seemed compatible with ones that we have worked out over the past couple months (which helps us to know we're on a reasonable track), but the approaches to education were novel to us and seemed very useful. We transitioned into a more general discussion about how to educate Web developers about the issues, and thought about how much our techniques would support this and how much work of the Education and Outreach Working Group would support it. The importance of real world examples became clear, and we also thought it was a good idea for people with examples and suggestions to post them on their sites (we generally can't post them on the W3C site) and then discuss via the WAI lists. Then we discussed checklists, one of the major ways we expect people to use the techniques. Some complexities are that techniques may be optional or two techniques may be in an "OR" relationship in which only one is required, and some techniques may be not applicable because a particular feature was not used. Representing all this is a challenge. We thought dynamic checklists that adapt themselves according to user responses would be a very useful tool, though we'll also have to tackle static print checklists and make them workable. Joe had contacts that might be able to help with the creation of dynamic checklists, and modeling the decision trees involved. Use cases for techniques was next. The discussion centered mainly around the use cases submitted by Tom Croucher, perhaps in part because they were formatted prettily <grin>, though a couple other people submitted use cases too (thank you). We found them very helpful in understanding what needs we would need to support in the techniques, and want to continue to keep use cases in mind formally as we develop further. We also need to develop a more internationalized set of use cases. Joe Clark then presented his thoughts on multimedia and color contrast techniques - notes at [3]. He discussed the landscape of accessibility for these technologies, suggested specific techniques, and outlined what should not be techniques, for reasons such as technology support, difficult of implementation, etc. The discussion around all this was interesting (and hard to summarize). The discussion on multimedia seemed like something the larger group should hear and consider, so we want to invite Joe to present this again at a Thursday call. We decided to draft content for techniques based in large part on Joe's proposal and our discussion, and although the initial result probably won't be perfect either in Joe's eyes or in ours, it will serve as a good basis for further discussion. By this time we were pretty tired, and a brief discussion on Gateway techniques yielded one decision: the document will now be called "Techniques Gateway". This emphasizes that this document is the first level of detail under the guidelines, checkpoints, and success criteria, provides background information, and points people into appropriate technology-specific techniques. Finally we identified next steps for the next couple months: publishing the next draft of HTML Techniques, developing the checklist view of techniques, continuing the Techniques Gateway work, starting the development of other technology-specific techniques, working on test files, sending feedback to the larger GL group, and coordinating with the AU and EO groups. ACTION ITEMS * Ben: Create user agent issues info for OBJECT & title * Wendy: Talk to Jenae about test files work * Alan: Write stuff about tables for public consumption & discussion * Joe: Forward examples * Editor: Document dependencies between techniques * Editor: Write out decision trees for each technique in a future draft * Michael, Joe: Recruit Joe's friend Rudy to help us data model decision * Ben: Create a draft checklist * Tom, David, Alan: Develop more use case personae * (Unassigned): Survey deaf-blind people about need for access to multimedia * (Unassigned): Look for examples of Flash/SVG that merit captions and/or audio descriptions (outside of embedded multimedia) * Michael: Get Joe on agenda to present on captions at a Thursday call * (Unassigned): Check if there cases of colors that can't be overridden by user * (Unassigned): Create techniques around text in images (including image replacement) * Michael, Chris: Create techniques for text color based on Joe's proposal REFERENCES [1] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/08-wai-wcag-irc.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2003/09/09-wai-wcag-irc.html [3] http://joeclark.org/f2f/recommendations.html Michael Cooper Accessibility Product Manager, Watchfire 1 Hines Rd, Kanata, ON K2K 3C7, Canada +1 (613) 599-3888 x4019 http://www.watchfire.com/ Watchfire's spam filter often mistakes legitimate email for spam. 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