- From: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 09:24:37 -0400
- To: "Wendy A Chisholm" <wendy@w3.org>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> "Don't set red on black or black on red. > Don't set green on red or red on green. > A good start. But what are the RGB values, or range of RGB values, for these colors? Here are some examples of text using these colors: http://www.aprompt.ca/redgreen.gif http://www.aprompt.ca/greenred.gif http://www.aprompt.ca/redblack.gif http://www.aprompt.ca/blackred.gif They might not appeal to your artistic sensibility but are they an accessibility problem? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy A Chisholm" <wendy@w3.org> To: "Chris Ridpath" <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> Cc: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [TECH] Colour Difference Algorithm > Joe's book and Aries pamphlet are good places to start. Here's a summary. > > In Chapter 9 of "Building Accessible Web Sites," [1] Joe says > "If I confuse this item with something else, will I make a mistake? Will I > be unable to do what I want?" > > "keep in mind you always have to think in groups. When considering two > items, is the first on top of the second? Or right alongside?" > > "Don't set red on black or black on red. > Don't set green on red or red on green. > Don't place the two halves of a confusable pair next to each other. > Don't mix beige/yellow/orange with red and green. > UNLESS > There is no actual chance of confusion. > The items are widely spaced. > The items have considerable difference in brightness." > > "If, however, you wish to maximally avoid colour confusions, you have a > range of colour choices at your disposal. > Red/blue > Steps: Dark red; medium red; light red; light blue; medium blue; dark blue > Orange/blue > Steps: Dark orange; medium orange; light orange; light blue; medium > blue; dark blue > Orange/purple > Steps: Dark orange; medium orange; light orange; light purple; medium > purple; dark purple > Yellow/purple > Steps (note the restricted list): Yellow; light purple; medium purple; > dark purple" > > "B-list: > Brown/blue > Steps: Dark brown; medium brown; light brown; light blue; medium blue; > dark blue > Yellow/blue > Steps: Yellow; light blue; medium blue; dark blue" > > "You can mix white, black, and grey with confusable colours if the results, > given foreground/background combinations, contrast, and other factors, are > actually unconfusable. > You can use confusable colours all you want if the confusion has no impact > on the meaning or function of the site." > > In "Effective Color Contrast" by Aries Arditi, PhD [2], he says > "Exaggerate lightness differences between foreground and background colors, > and avoid using colors of similar lightness adjacent to one another, eve if > they differ in saturation or hue...If you lighten your light colors and > darken your dark colors, you will increase the visual accessibility of your > design." > > (in reference to a color wheel described at [3]), > "Choose dark colors with hues from the bottom half of the hue circle > against light colors from the top half of the circle. Avoid contrasting > light colors from the bottom half against dark colors from the top half." > "Avoid contrasting hues from adjacent parts of the hue circle, especially > if the colors do not contrast sharply in lightness." > > In other words, Choose dark [blue, violet, purple or red] against light > [blue-green, green, yellow, or orange]. Avoid light [blue, violet, purple > or red] against dark [blue-green, green, yellow, or orange]. Orange on red > (or vice-versa) is not effective because they are next to each other in the > color wheel. Yellow on purple (or vice versa) is effective since they are > not adjacent. > > --w > > [1] http://joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter09.html > [2] http://www.lighthouse.org/color_contrast.htm > [3] description of color wheel - light colors: blue-green, green, yellow, > orange. dark colors: blue, violet, purple, red > > At 03:55 PM 8/28/2003, you wrote: > > > > ...However we can take steps to recommend content > > > providers avoid using colours which exacerbate the problem. This, in my > > > opinion at least, should be where WCAG stops. > > > > >I agree. There are certain combinations that everyone agrees are bad. For > >example the exact same colour used for both text and background. There are > >certain colours that everyone agrees are OK - black on white. > > > >But as we move away from these extremes we start to run into problems. Which > >colours do we recommend the content providers avoid? Is it possible to draw > >a clear line? > > > >Chris > > -- > wendy a chisholm > world wide web consortium > web accessibility initiative > http://www.w3.org/WAI/ > /-- >
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