- From: Lisa Seeman <seeman@netvision.net.il>
- Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:29:28 -0700
- To: "Wendy A Chisholm (E-mail)" <wendy@w3.org>, jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au, GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU
- Cc: "W3c-Wai-Gl@W3.Org (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
New bees (and some of the rest of us) may want to look up the Hebrew vowels threads to understand this email. The Techno project, the IISO and a bunch of other Peaple all point to Prof. Yaakov Choueka of Bar-Ilan university. I feel enough people have recommended his expertise in this. As far as I know, this problem has been solved with an accuracy of about 95%, but is being used by a commercial product called "NAKDAN". He is holding on to the software license. I did some more mining and Melingo licenses his algorithm. I have contacted both Yaakov Choueka and Melingo. If I can get a license for a server solution then I can set up a free portal that reformats pages and puts in the vowels for accessibility purposes. Let me see how much the license would cost. The cost may be prohibitive. But even at 95% success (Yaakov Choueka estimate - Melingo claim a bit higher) that is not perfect. We could ask that people put in vowels in words were the free service does not translate it correctly. In other words the checkpoint as it now stands: 'Provide information needed for unambiguous decoding of the characters and words in the content' would still hold - when the portal (assuming I can build one ) decipher the word correctly, then the checkpoint has been fulfilleled automaticly. When the portal adds the vowels _incorctly_, then clearly not all the information needed for unambiguous decoding has been provided, and the responsibilty falls on the web content provier to provide more information. In the case of Arrabic, vowels would be required until somone makes the same type of service. Do we want to say that it can be unambiguous decoding at an affordable cost (whatever that means). In other words, if a program can decode the word, but it costs the end user three mounth salary to do so - the job ain't done? However the problem has been solved from a different perspective - reasonability. If this algorithm is anything like it seas it is, then providing vowels even without a portal, is now a lot more affordable. The cost for a site owner to use software to put in the vowels and then tweak it, is nothing like as high or as difficult as adding the vowels by hand. By the way the Israel Internet Society is truly starting to promote accessibility and WCAG - so it may yet happen hear. So now among my other hats I am also working for them (yes, as usual, as a volunteer) And yes, I will continue reporting back. (Whether anyone is interested or not) All the best, Lisa Seeman UnBounded Access Widen the World Web http://www.UBaccess.com -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Jason White Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:27 PM To: Web Content Guidelines Subject: Agenda Thursday, 15 August, 2000 UTC (4 PM US Eastern, 10 PM France, 6 AM Eastern Australia) on +1-617-761-6200, passcode 9224: This week we plan to continue with last week's agenda, starting with items 1 and 2 (i.e., further consideration of levels, followed by assurance requirements and the remaining items on last week's agenda). Please be sure to read the relevant mailing list threads prior to the meeting. Last week's agenda is available at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2002JulSep/0125.html
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