- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:22:41 -0700
- To: jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU, Web Content Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 4:12 PM +1000 2001/10/27, Jason White wrote: >gian@stanleymilford.com.au writes: > > OTACS-2: > > > > * assumes the site will only be accessible using certain tools > > > > * eg. site is accessible only once stylesheets have been rendered.Ý > > What happens if stylesheets are turned off?Ý Will there be a > > clause "...if tools are turned off the site must still be > > functional..."? > > >The principle doesn't make any such assumption; rather it requires >that the content itself (markup, text, audio/graphics, user interface >etc.) include sufficient machine-processable information to enable a >user with a disability to receive an adequate rendering, possibly with >the aid of assistive technologies and other client-side mechanisms. I think we need to be very careful about this, and "gian" (sorry, don't remember the name) has a good point here. There is a big danger here in just looking at things from a content- centric standpoint, and that danger is that we may become seriously out of sync with reality. The problem is exacerbated, not helped, by new XML-based technologies and updated specifications. Basically, the question is: What if there is, say, a spec for something but nothing supports it? Web developers _want_ their web pages to be used by everyone, including people with disabilities. But if we say "you should use LONGDESC" and then they ask "how many browsers support that?", we lose credibility if it doesn't actually enable access for people with disabilities. If we say "use CSS 2!" but it doesn't work, then we've got a problem. If we say "use the newest version of Adobe PDF!" but few people out there can access the content, there's a problem. The less practical our suggestions are, the less credibility we have. "These guidelines will help make your content more accessible to people with disabilities, except that they really don't actually help any people with disabilities -- but maybe in the future someone will build assistive technology which could read it!" Consider this -- what if I start serving up pure CORAL documents? CORAL is an XML-based content language used internally at Reef, and it was designed specifically to contain accessibility information and the necessary metadata to do multi-device transformations. Therefore the argument can certainly be made that all necessary information is available in a machine-readable format -- but clearly no user agents out there can understand CORAL and render a CORAL site for a web user. My point, summarized: We really _must_ consider things not just from the context of the content, but also from the view of the user, and specifically the user with one or more disabilities. If something is accessibility "according to specification" but not according to practice, then we can't simply say "you should be using the one screenreader which supports this" if our concern is access for that user rather than dogmatic purity. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com> Technical Developer Liaison Reef North America Accessibility - W3C - Integrator Network ________________________________________ BUSINESS IS DYNAMIC. TAKE CONTROL. ________________________________________ http://www.reef.com
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