- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 09:48:14 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Bailey, Bruce" <Bruce_Bailey@ed.gov>
- cc: "'Web Content Accessibility Guidelines'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "'wai-wcag-editor@w3.org'" <wai-wcag-editor@w3.org>
I would argue thaqt a table that has a single set of headers for rows, and a single set for columns, doesn't have multiple levels of headers. The example is where there a headers for other headers. In other words, the average table of data with a row of headers across the top, and a column of headers down one side or the other (or sometimes the same headers reproduced at either side, to make life easier) has only one logical level of headers. Tables with two or more levels are those where the row of headers "closest to the content" itself has headers. A trivial example would be months, which have season headers (and internationalisation problems <grin/>). Opinions folks? cheers Charles McCN On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Bailey, Bruce wrote: Dear Group, I respectfully request some clarification on WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 5.2. The examples in the Techniques document are very good. URL: <http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#identifying-table-rows-columns> I am left with a nagging question however: Do the first two examples (cups of coffee per senator) warrant use of the attributes being demonstrated? That is, do ALL non-trivial data tables have at least two logical levels? It seems to me that ANY data table with more than one column (and row) is at least as complex as the cups of coffee per senators example. Is the point of those examples just to demonstrate the HTML mechanics of using attributes like ID and HEADER or is it ALSO providing an example of a "data table with two logical levels"? If the latter, could someone provide me an example of a "data table with only one logical level"? Assuming that such examples are fairly trivial (like the cups of coffee per senator, but with only one senator listed) let me also suggest that this checkpoint would be MUCH more understandable if it the disclaimer phrase "that have two or more logical levels of row or column headers" were deleted. (Actually, I am hoping that I am reading 5.2 wrong and that simple straightforward two dimensional tables are okay so long as TD and TH are used appropriately. Thanks for your time. If I missed the a clarification in the archives, my apologies, please point me in the right direction. Bruce Bailey US Dept of Education -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia until 6 January 2001 at: W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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