- From: Matt May <mcmay@bestkungfu.com>
- Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:18:29 -0800
- To: "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "Anne Pemberton" <apembert@crosslink.net>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Pemberton" <apembert@crosslink.net> > Looking at your various responses on this topic, I sense you have a strong > protective sense towards database managers. I don't see any need to protect them, no. I'm not a DBA, and I'm fortunate enough not to have to deal with content on a daily basis anymore. I have, however, worked in daily content groups on web sites and as a reporter, and I know that if the places I've worked for are any indication, content providers will be extremely reluctant to adopt a checkpoint like this because of the burden it would place on the writers. The database people merely police the content within, so there's really no reason for me to protect them. I suppose I need to mention here that I'm not doing this because Webvan has some big content repository it needs to fix. There are no ulterior motives. (For that matter, my group, User Interface, makes it a point to stay out of technical issues.) As a technical person, and as a writer, I think the risk-to-reward ratio favors the dictionary concept. I've used words like "authority" to describe something like a dictionary server. I think there's value in considering what exactly a dictionary contains. It's not just random definitions people sent in, but content that is itself carefully scrutinized. If a writer is compelled to define URL, odds are they'll come up with "Universal Resource Locator", which is incorrect. I doubt many would be able to come up with "deoxyribonucleic acid" or the expansion of "Messrs.", either. When a site claims authority over a term, that's when they should be defining it. If they're not, they shouldn't be stretched to expand every "United States" and "Grand Old Party" for a minuscule fraction of people who may, perhaps, be looking to have the terms defined. > If the content provider > doesn't know the correct use of an acronym in his database, whatever reason > is it there? Lots of people use acronyms or abbreviations they don't understand, or don't have the capacity to describe to someone else. Ask an average programmer what CGI is, and you'll probably get "a way to build web pages on the server," not "Common Gateway Interface." (Which brings up another point: expansions are not necessarily definitions. Expanding "GOP" would not aid users in understanding that it's the Republican Party in the U.S. Therefore, what you're really looking for in an effort to aid accessibility is more likely to be definition.) > I'm unsure why you are critical of a plan to change such content only > forward and not backward. But most of the value of the web is its legacy. If I can only get definitions of terms that have a last-modified date of May 2001 or later, is the web really more accessible? Now, contrast that with something that allows everything, no matter the date, to be made at least a little more accessible using a standard dictionary, or much more accessible, using a site-specific dictionary. > You ask why abbreviations and acronyms need to be tagged? It's because > they are not or not yet "natural words". If/when the technology has the > ability to translate "on the fly" to other natural languages, non-words > will have to be tagged ... so we have one reason for now (expanding stuff), > and one reason for later (language translations), so get started now since > it's so onerous to get it done right! <grin> My question wasn't why they need to be expanded, it's why they need to be marked up. In the user-agent scenario, anything that appears on the page could be defined. - m
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