- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 14:16:24 -0500 (EST)
- To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- cc: Anne Pemberton <apembert@crosslink.net>, Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, WAI GL <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hmm. I agree that we need something more useful than "expand the first time an abbreviation occurs" - since it is hard to know the first time a user will come across it. I think that translates to two requirements - one that says "provide expansions for abbreviations or acronyms" is a checkpoint-type requirement (in WCAG 1.0 already), and the other is techniques information that says some abbreviations are so well known that they can be treated as words - the acronyms RADAR, NATO, and the term OK all spring to mind, while others are specific to an audience - the term "ER" springs to mind as a recent example. Matt said that if we do this on a site-by-site basis we are likely to end up with a lot of different definitions for the same term, but this is in fact the way that we use language. Where there is only one vaguely plausible definition, the abbreviation in question is probably recognisable as a word, or is something that can be done on a site-wide or larger basis. Further thoughts on techniques: Creating a dictionary like wordnet, of abbreviations, would allow us to give a URI class to an expansion that can be used across different pages or sites - baby steps in a semantic web. But this relies on having technology that can use it, and probably lives for the moment in the realms of the ER (Evaluation and Repair Tools, or Emergency Room?) group - I'll take it there and see if they can send us back some good stuff for techniques that can be used. Cheers Charles McCN On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Kynn Bartlett wrote: At 08:04 AM 12/28/2000 , Anne Pemberton wrote: > Expanding an abbreviation or acronym one time in a page/document is >insufficient for the user, no matter how onerous the task or expanding it. >I would prefer to see the rule state that every time an abbreviation or >acronym is used, it was exapandable by the user. Anne makes a good argument here; I'd also note that we wouldn't say "provide ALT text for a given image only on the first appearance of that image, and expect the user agent to consider all images with the same URI to have the same ALT text." I think that if abbreviation expansion is going to be -required- in some way, then that requirement shouldn't be based on first vs. subsequent appearances in the text; if an abbreviation is to be expanded, then all appearances of it should be expanded. The criteria should instead be based on an understanding of the audience and how the page is used, as well as the specifics of the abbreviations used. There are many cases in which it would not be appropriate to expand -all- abbreviations but instead only expand -some- of them. (E.g., do you expand WAI if writing to the WAI group? What about writing to the XHTML-L group? Do you supply expansions for XHTML-L on the XHTML-L group? Do you expand the "E.g." I used at the start of this parenthetical diversion, and if so, _how_ do you expand it?) Abbreviation expansions in markup are useful. What's needed, however, is not attention to how many times an abbreviation is expanded, but rather some sort of principles to allow the author to know when she should provide an abbreviation expansion. --Kynn -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia until 6 January 2001 at: W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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