- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:42:32 -0800
- To: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
- Cc: "Kynn Bartlett" <kynn@idyllmtn.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 1:51 PM +0000 11/28/00, Sean B. Palmer wrote: >So, in summary WCAG are worthless dogmatic fascist rules imposed by an elite >few... In summary, they _can_ be. There's a definite danger that we will easily make ourselves ultimately meaningless in the larger scope of things -- if we make guidelines which nobody will use, which only meet our own self-defined goals, then nobody will incorporate them into the web design process and accessibility will not be increased. >I'm not even going to dignify that with a response other than "Kynn, >what on earth are you doing in this group then? Are you trying to break down >the walls of the elite few and get rid of this dogmatic fascism that you >talk about?" Every now and then I try, yes. Have you read the archives? > > We were working towards trying to focus suggestions and comments by >> qualifying each one with a proposal. In other words instead of saying just >> "I do not like this" we add an alternative reversion or wording of a > > checkpoint, to qualify validate r feeling. >Yes, and that's how the WCAG rules came about. Hardly fascist is it? Depends on who is participating. There is no representation in this group of our target audiences -- the people who can make the greatest changes in web accessibility -- and we are suffering for lack of it. For starters, we automatically dismiss the concerns and needs of anyone who is not either (a) disabled, (b) entirely textually oriented, or (c) highly technical and academic -- which means that we produce pretty worthless guidelines which say "never use graphics if they have any text, instead use SVG." Such guidelines are laughably absurd to suggest to any real web designer who has a huge number of issues to balance while doing her job, from legacy browser support to varying CSS implementations; from branding to usability; from deadlines to corporate requirements. Because we have such an extreme focus _and_ such an extremely focused, self-selected, specialized group, we have a serious tendency to create guidelines which put accessibility at the center of the universe and set unreasonable requirements which may actually produce little or no actual increase in the number of people who can access content on the web. As Gregg has mentioned before, if people don't like our guidelines -- if they don't think WCAG 2.0 is worthwhile -- then they will make their own. We need to not only produce an "updated", and "more complete" WCAG, but we need to create a "sellable" WCAG 2.0 with obvious benefits over either creating their own guidelines or simply sticking with WCAG 1.0. And we can't do that if we decide (bizarrely) that our audience's concerns are worthless and meaningless. --Kynn -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://www.kynn.com/
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