- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:32:35 -0700
- To: Jason White <jasonw@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
At 3:35 PM +1100 10/28/00, Jason White wrote: >For this reason, I propose: >1. that the discussion of checkpoint 2.3 be amplified with further >explanation and examples; and >2. that the detailed elaboration of the requirement of logical structure, >be reserved to the Techniques. I agree with both of these. I have some concerns about the specifics below. >Here is a rough proposal along these lines, which is by no means complete, >and about which I have some reservations. Understood. Hopefully my nitpicking at this will help us firm this up in a pleasing direction ><dt>2.3 Use markup or a data model to specify the logical structure of >content. ><dd><p>Note: this allows a diverse variety of presentations, in different >modalities and on different devices, to be generated automatically through >the application of style rules. It also facilitates logical navigation of >the content by the user, a capability which is particularly important in >voice-based interaction or in circumstances where the content is presented >on a low-resolution display or braille device. Hm... I am beginning to believe that we should standardize each checkpoint with a <benefit>...</benefit> section which would define what exactly each checkpoint does. I very much like the way how you have been presenting the usefulness of each, which also helps with increased perception of the _need_ for each checkpoint. This means that for each checkpoint now we would have to insert a "reason" clause. I think that's doable and in fact I think it is mandatory. Should this be a separate discussion about document structure and format? ><p>The details of which structural aspects of the content should be >expressed in the markup or data model, are set forth in the Techniques >relevant to each technology [link to 2.0 Techniques]. To provide general >guidance however, the following is a non-exhaustive list of structural and >semantic features of content which are considered important: ><ul> ><li>The division of a document into chapters, sections, paragraphs etc; One point which came out at the DIW is that traditional _written document_ sections are not universal and so we should be very careful about stating that division into these _specific_ types of sections should be avoided. For example, a typical television show does not have chapters, sections, and paragraphs; instead, it has scenes, acts, and so on. An SVG document has no chapters, sections, or paragraphs, nor does a SMIL document. A better idea is: <li>Divide the document into sections and subsections as appropriate for the content type. ><li>Lists or groups of related items, for example a bulleted list or a >group of user interface controls; This sounds very HTML-specific, almost too much. Are these meant as principles or as examples? The phrasing before the list indicates principles but some read as examples. ><li>The division of an image into the distinct objects or items depicted >in it; How about: <li>Group related content using markup; as examples, group related textual concepts in bulleted lists, group related user interface controls, and group image definitions related to distinct objects. ><li>Headings, labels, titles etc. These should be associated explicitly >with the information to which they apply, especially in complicated >structures such as tables. <li>Explicitly associate labels such as titles, headlines, column headings, and textual equivalents with the information to which they apply. (Basically the same as what you said, just rewritten.) > <li>Emphasized text (e.g. as indicated by font changes in a visual >presentation); I'm not sure how exactly this should be phrased, or if it's appropriate beyond HTML/text. ><li>Language changes, especially in multilingual texts where two or more >langauges occur; <li>Identify natural language use explicitly and indicate changes in the natural language of content. Is the above a checkpoint already? ><li>The use of specialized notations, such as mathematics or computer >program code; Also not sure how to quantify this. ></ul> </dd> >(end of proposal) Hm. Thorny. -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://www.kynn.com/
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