- From: Phill Jenkins/Austin/IBM <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:26:07 -0400
- To: w3C-wai-pf@w3.org
- Cc: Claus Thøgersen <scsct@mail.hum.au.dk>, karl@w3.org, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
The way user agents handle information and present it to users is important, and very often considered by designers. Designers with accessibility in mind think about how the screen reader presents the information, as well as the visual rendering, as well as the programmatic execution, etc. Sure the UAAG says ALL the information must eventually be made available to the user, but the order of priority is important. I recommend that we specify the "best" order in which to discover and render information - for example on FRAME: 1st render the title attribute, else then prefetch the title element of the page or else then the name attribute and/or URL of the page > ...The title attribute is designed for a human-readable >explanation of what an element does - the name attribute on a frame is a >machine-readable one. I agree. >The situation is more complicated that this. The 'name' attribute was >there first, so it is not fair to say that implementations which display >the 'name' attribute are not "good implementation." I believe it is fair to say that is it "bad" if there is also a title= attribute that was ignored. If the title= was missing, then it should be up to the user agent design to pick between pre-fetching the TITLE element from the page - or - just giving some combination of name and/or URL to the user. Just as a visual browser loads all of the frame set, so did Home Page Reader 2.5, and thus had available to it all the titles (if they were there) of the pages that made up the frame set. If the TITLE element was missing, then the last resort was the URL of the FRAME. >... it is important to work on current >specifications where they are available, as HTML 4.0 has been for some >years. I agree. Is this a PF or GL discussion thread?? Seems like it fits best in GL. Regards, Phill Jenkins IBM Research Division - Accessibility Center
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