- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:51:34 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Claus Thøgersen <scsct@mail.hum.au.dk>
- cc: wai wac <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, karl@w3.org
Claus, Having only a good name attribute will owrk for Jaws, but the HTML specification provides the title attribute on almost all elements (including frame and frameset). The title attribute is designed for a human-readable explanation of what an element does - the name attribute on a frame is a machine-readable one. So using only the name does not support good implementation. But using a good name and a good title does not create a problem, so it is better to do both. The longdesc attribute is similar - at the moment most tools do not support it, so it is necessary to use something like a d-link as well. But it is important to use the specification, so that we can say to software developers "there is content out there trying to do the right thing, and you should support that". (Actually I believe there is another Danish speech system at least, and it may be that there are also danish voices available for emacspeak using Mbrola or festival. Unless you support the specification as well as "what works in a piece of software", there is no encouragement for developers to do better at making tools that support the specifications.) cheers Charles McCN On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Claus Thøgersen wrote: Hi, During a rewrite of the Danish guidelines for creating accessable web pages, made by the Statens Infomation, the agency that is responsible for the Danish national information policies, we have found problems with the WAC guideline concerning the use of the title tag used to identify frames. In Denmark the only screenreader for blind is JAWS for Windos. We have found that JFW does not recognize the title tag when used on frames but it does recognize the name tag. So we started out discussion weather we should follow JFW or the WAI guidelines. One of the members in the group has examined the html 4.01 specification and claims that there is no reference to the title tag at all. Is there a reason why the title tag has been preferred over the name tag when using frames? And will we degrade other access issues if we stick to the html 4.01 and recommend the use of the name tag when designing pages with frames? Regards Claus Thoegersen Center for Blind and Visually Impaired Students University of Aarhus DK-8000 Aarhus C Denmark Phone +(45) 8942 23 71. Email scsct@mail.hum.au.dk -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia September - November 2000: W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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