- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:59:44 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
Attendance: Ian Jacobs (Chair, scribe) Eric Hansen Daniel Dardailler Jason White Charles McCathieNevile Gregg Vanderheiden Judy Brewer Regrets: Chuck Letourneau Wendy Chisholm Agenda [0]. [0] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/1999JanMar/0469.html Reference document [1] [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WD-WAI-PAGEAUTH-19990316 A) RESOLVED: To clearly indicate the division between author responsibility and user agent responsibility: a) All checkpoints involving interim responsibility from authors will contain the wording "Until user agents ..." These checkpoints are: all of guideline 9, all of guideline 12, checkpoint 15.4 (group related links), and 1.7 (Provide redundant text links for each active region of an image map.) b) For each checkpoint, include the "until" wording since checkpoints may be read on their own. It is not sufficient to say it in the guideline rationale. c) Include an explanation of what "Until user agents..." means in the glossary section. Proposed text: <BLOCKQUOTE> In some of the checkpoints below, content developers are clearly the best candidates for ensuring accessibility. However, there are times when user agents would be the better choice. Unfortunately, not all user agents or assistive technologies provide the accessibility control users require (e.g., some user agents may not allow users to turn off blinking content, or some screen readers may not handle tables well). To address cases where the responsibility for providing accessible control lies with the user agent or assistive technology but that control is not yet easily available, certain checkpoints contain the phrase "until user agents ...". When content developers see this phrase, they should recognize that they are being asked to provide additional support for accessibility until most user agents meet users' needs. For each checkpoint with this phrase, content developers must consider: 1.What is their anticipated audience? For example, designing for a company intranet where everyone uses the same browser is different than designing for the World Wide Web. 2.Do those users have tools available that satisfy the demands of the checkpoint? If the answer to the second question is yes, content developers are not required to satisfy the checkpoint. How will content developers know when most user agents or assistive technologies meet specific needs? The W3C WAI will make this information available from its Web site (either directly or by providing links to the information). Content developers are encouraged to consult this information regularly for updates on accessibility support. </BLOCKQUOTE> ACTION WG: Review this proposal. B) RESOLVED: Divide checkpoint 9.2 into two checkpoints: a) Priority 1: Until user agents allow users to control it, avoid causing the screen to flicker. [Add note about epilepsy here.] b) Priority 2: Until user agents allow users to control it, avoid causing content to blink (i.e., change presentation at a regular rate, such as turning on and off). C) RESOLVED: Proposed change in wording of Note in guideline 12. The following checkpoints apply until user agents and assistive technologies address these issues. D) RESOLVED: Do references designated the latest versions of documents or dated versions? Proposed: a) Add a link from checkpoint 13.1 (Use the latest W3C specs) to the references section. b) In the references section, add a statement about where to find the current versions of W3C specs. c) The list of references will contain dated versions so that readers will know what existed when the guidelines were created. d) To each entry in the list, add a link to the latest version. ACTION IAN: Inform Misha, who raised this issue in [2] [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/1999JanMar/0333.html E) RESOLVED: It's to say in guideline 1 that when text equivalent is long, use description. /* Note: This resolution is subsumed by a later one */ F) RESOLVED: In 6.3, add to checkpoint the following text: "including text equivalents (e.g., captions)" G) RESOLVED: All checkpoints in guideline 9 priority 2 except for the one about flicker. H) RESOLVED: Changes for guideline 15. a) Move note about LINK relationships from 15.3 to 15.2 b) Move 15.10 to after 15.3. c) Change priority level of 15.6 to 2. d) Merge 15.4 and 15.5 into a priority 2 checkpoint. Proposed wording: Provide information about the general layout of a site (e.g., a site map, or table of contents). e) For 15.9: i) Proposed wording: Provide information about document collections (i.e., documents comprising multiple pages.). ii) Make this an "until user agents" checkpoint. iii) Techniques: LINK relationships, archives. iv) Add more rationale (e.g., performance or cost requires offline browsing) I) RESOLVED: In the Abstract, make clear that this is a reference document and that for more practical information, readers should consult the WAI Web site. J) RESOLVED: Add a definition of "assistive technology" to the glossary. K) RESOLVED: Add a section about document conventions, including: a) Element names are uppercase. b) Attribute names are quoted lowercase. c) Linking conventions (to techniques document, to references, to glossary, etc.) L) RESOLVED: All discussion of browser support for elements and attributes is outside the scope of this document. State this in the front matter. M) RESOLVED: Do not discuss accessibility v. usability in the document. -- The following resolutions refer to the issues list [3] and the numbers given here are those in the open issues list. [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wai-gl-issues.html 19) The Specifics of Conformance Claims See proposal [4] from Judy and comments. [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/1999JanMar/0483.html 20) Priority of checkpoints related to color RESOLVED: For checkpoint 4.2, [Priority 2 for images, Priority 3 for text]. 21) Marking up lists RESOLVED: Priority 2. This is not an editorial issue (i.e., it's not about choosing to use lists). 22) BLOCKQUOTE for indentation RESOLVED: Priority 2, notably since style sheets can address this. Also, the way braille works (according to Jason), blockquotes and inline are treated identically. 23) Use of "title" RESOLVED: a) Say to use "title" according to HTML 4.0 spec. b) Don't say anything about using "title" for images that are not in links. 24) Priority of "Use latest W3C technologies" (Checkpoint 13.1) RESOLVED a) Wording: Use W3C technologies and use the latest versions when they are supported. b) Link to the discussion of "until user agents" 25) Priority of "Avoid deprecated features" (Checkpoint 13.2) RESOLVED Wording: Avoid deprecated features of W3C technologies. 26) Priority of "Divide long lists into groups" (Checkpoint 14.5) RESOLVED: Create a single Priority 2 checkpoint for managing groups of information. Wording: Divide large blocks of information into more manageable groups where natural and appropriate. 27) Who's responsible - author or user agent? See point "A" above. 28) Clarity of natural language guideline (Guideline 6) RESOLVED: Addressed with new guideline wording: Clarify natural language usage. 29) URIs for references See point "D" above. 30) LINK types. See point "H" above. 31) Off-line reading techniques See point "H" above. 32) Additional natural language issues? See point "F" above. 33) Section numbering RESOLVED in 16 March draft. 34) Consistent use of double priority Proposal dropped 35) Statement of audience RESOLVED: Don't add any statements in abstract about intended readership. PROPOSED: Add reference to policy makers to conformance statement. 36) Information about assistive technologies RESOLVED: Create a W3C NOTE for this information rather than including it in the guidelines other than minimally. The glossary does contain some short definitions. 37) Clarity of link destination RESOLVED: a) Many links cleared up in 16 March draft b) Will add section on conventions. 38) Support for new elements and attributes RESOLVED: All proposals are out of scope, covered already, or will be dealt with at WAI Web site. Support for "longdesc" doesn't belong here; UA guidelines probably. 39) Interim support for table header info RESOLVED: No change. (Lean to the future, use correct markup) 40) Proposal that background/foreground be specified together to ensure contrast RESOLVED: No additional checkpoint. This is a technique. 41) Proposal to restructure first three guidelines /* NOTE: At this point in the teleconference, the only participants were Charles McCathieNevile, Jason White, Eric Hansen, and Ian Jacobs. Judy was present, but working on the conformance proposal. */ RESOLVED: - Change priority of 3.4 to Priority 1: (Provide a text version of the auditory description and collate it with the text transcript (captions) of the primary audio track.) The last part of the teleconference call involved an in-depth study of the first three guidelines, their purpose, and their checkpoints. The following is a proposal to restructure these guidelines. RATIONALE: i) The first three guidelines not organized clearly. ii) There are several axes to consider here, including: 1. The format of the "primary" information: audio or visual 2. The format of the alternative information: text, audio, or video. 3. The purpose of the alternative information: text equivalent (function) or description (appearance) iii) The distinction between "equivalent" and "description" is not always clear. Equivalent information often contains a descriptive component. iv) The distinction between "alt" text and "longdesc" text is an artifact of a choice made by the HTML 4.0 designers. That the OBJECT element allows rich text equivalents indicates that the "long versus short" argument is an implementation detail. REQUIREMENTS: i) The most important concept to convey in the revised guidelines structure is that authors must provide information that will be equivalent when rendered. ii) Text is king (and thus all text equivalent information should be Priority 1). iii) Audio or video representations of information are secondary (and Priority 2). iv) All the visual information checkpoints may be combined into one except where qualifications require separation. PROPOSED: i) Move checkpoint 1.5 to Guideline 11 (device-independence) (Checkpoint 1.5 is: Provide client-side image maps instead of server-side image maps except where the regions cannot be defined with an available geometric shape.) ii) Move checkpoint 1.8 to Guideline 5 (Use markup and style sheets appropriately). (Checkpoint 1.8 is: Provide individual button controls in a form rather than simulating a set of buttons with an image map. iii) Proposed: For the part of checkpoint 1.6 involving a link to skip over ascii art, move to guideline 15 as a priority 2 checkpoint. iv) Proposed: For the part of checkpoint 1.6 involving using an image instead of ascii art, create a new checkpoint (priority 2) in guideline 5 about using images rather than text to provide visual information. Ensure cross references to other ascii-art guidelines. v) Reduce guidelines 1, 2, and 3 to one Guideline, to read: Provide equivalent information for visual and auditory information. The rationale will have to be rewritten based on the rationales from the three guidelines. The main points to emphasize are that: a) The goal is to provide information that may be used to create an equivalent browsing experience. b) Function is vital, description may be part of function. Thus, there will no longer be a separate topic of "description" - this will be included in the definition of "equivalent". The implementation details of which attributes to use and when will be in the techniques document. c) Text is king, audio and video equivalents are useful but text can be rendered as speech, graphically, or by a braille device. d) Synchronization is important when equivalents are interwoven over time. e) ASCII art has to be carefully defined (e.g., to not include a smiley, which, in certain circles, is just a accessible as an abbreviation, and in other circles, just as obscure. This is arguably different than using characters to create an image. vi) Proposed checkpoints. Each checkpoint will start with its new number followed by a slash and its old number. The end of the checkpoint will list the old checkpoint number(s). 1.1 Provide a text equivalent for every non-text object. Priority 1. Was checkpoints 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2.1, 3.1, 3.3, and 3.4. This includes: images, graphical representations of text, image map regions, animations (e.g., animated GIFs), applets, ascii art, scripts, inserted list bullets, sounds, synthesized speech, audio tracks of video, and video. NOTE: Include a cross-ref here to the (proposed) checkpoint in guideline 15 about skipping over ascii art. This includes images as bullets. QUESTION: From "Provide a text equivalent for every sound played automatically," What does "automatically" mean? 1.2 Provide redundant text links for each active region of an image map. [Priority 1 - if server-side image maps are used, Priority 2 - if client-side image maps are used. Content developers will not need to provide redundant text links for client-side image maps once most user agents render text equivalents for the map links.] Was checkpoint 1.7. 1.3 Ensure that audio information played simultaneously remains comprehensible. Priority 1. Was checkpoint 3.2. Example: Weave audio tracks and audio descriptions so they overlap comprehensibly. 1.4 Synchronize equivalents that evolve together over time. Priority 1. Examples: a) Subtitles and video must be synchronized. b) Collate text equivalents of audio tracks and audio equivalents. 1.5 Provide non-text equivalents where they facilitate comprehension of the page. Priority 2. Example: video representation of an applet, icon representation of text, audio description of video, recorded spoken text, etc. Was checkpoint 2.2, 8.5, 16.2
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