- From: Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:07:31 +0900
- To: tenkate@natlab.research.philips.com, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
- Cc: ph@w3.org, dd@w3.org
Warner ten Kate wrote:
> I have one comment in that the Introduction suggests
> the guidelines concern any type of access, ie. not
> only improvement of access by disabled persons, but
> also access through constrained devices or access
> under special circumstances.
>
> Although the guidelines can be used, and likely
> will be used, to improve presentation in such cases,
> I found that serving that purpose would cause me
> to reconsider some of the Priority ratings.
>
> Concerning resource constrained devices, those are
> designed as such, aiming to serve a certain application.
> It is a question in what level those devices require
> more comprehensible access, and when required, whether
> other solutions can be provided.
(snip)
> I am not stating the guidelines are not beneficial
> to the wider area, but I would suggest to restrict
> the scope of the Guidelines to access by disabled people
> more clearly (the Abstract does mention this).
> I expect doing this will help the understanding of
> the document and its use.
I fully agree with Warner on this point.
> - checkpoint 5.1:
> I was confused by the wording "nest". I understood that as, eg,
>
> <h1>
> heading 1 text
> <h2>nested header</h2>
> remainder heading 1
> </h1>
>
> which isn't valid HTML.
> I think the intended meaning is, eg,
>
> <h1>heading 1 text</h1>
> ...
> <h2>nested header</h2>
> ....
> <h1>other heading 1</h1>
>
> the "nesting" concerns the alignment with the
> contextual organisation.
>
> I find this is an interesting observation:
> The content model of the heading elements doesn't reflect
> this guideline. In fact, two informations are needed:
> - structure of headings (ie. nesting as reffered in this guideline)
> - the (text) data being in those headings (what h1-6 model)
> A combined model could go in the direction of:
>
> <section>
> <h>heading 1 text</h>
> <!-- heading 1 because of child of first section -->
> ...
> <section>
> <h>nested header</h>
> <!-- heading 2 because of child of second level section -->
> ....
> </section>
> ....
> <h>other heading 1</h>
> </section>
>
> where levels can be set (like numbers on a <li>)
Just FYI, ISO-HTML [1] takes a very strict attitude towards this issue,
and actually it *requires* to "nest" sections, by introducing pseudo
elements <div1> through <div6>, though, these elements shall not appear
in valid ISO-HTML documents. An example:
<h1>heading 1 text</h1>
<div1>
...
<h2>heading 2 text</h2>
<div2>
....
</div2>
</div1>
<h1>other heading 1</h1>
If you are interested in it, take a look at relevant section of User's
Guide to ISO-HTML [2].
[1] http://purl.org/NET/ISO+IEC.15445/15445.html
[2] http://purl.org/NET/ISO+IEC.15445/Users-Guide.html#h1
Regards,
--
Masayasu Ishikawa / mimasa@w3.org
W3C - World Wide Web Consortium
Received on Friday, 12 March 1999 00:08:18 UTC