- From: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>
- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:11:00 -0800 (PST)
- To: <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
- Cc: <oedipus@hicom.net>, <liam.mcgee@communis.co.uk>, <wloughborough@gmail.com>
Liam McGee wrote: > > Anyone else want to pitch in on this? Sure, I will. Prior to the release of WebAIM's Survey results last week [http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey/], Accessibility advocates would have this debate (surrounding appropriate @alt) every few months (it seemed) - with both sides eloquently stating their opinions and ideas. I am guilty of this as well: I have oft advocated using the pattern of alt="[Photo - John Foliot]" or alt="[icon - Adobe PDF]" or alt="[illustration - bar graph of user statistics]" based upon *my* limited research and opinion (and used in all of my development work). The WebAIM survey produced some interesting results however - and while Jared and Co. want to do some more analysis (and perhaps even reconsider the question and it's phrasing for the next survey), they do state: "It is clear that there is a disconnect between what evaluators/those without disabilities and full-time/disabled screen reader users want." - and what the full-time/disabled screen readers generally want is some value beyond _null for "Images [used] to enhance the mood or feel of a web page". For actual photos (the one used in the survey was of the White House), 80% of respondents preferred "Photo of the White House" (no haiku there!, and makes me feel that my pattern suggestion is not that far off the mark), while "Identification of logos" was a completely mixed bag of results with no clear "winner" (note, I suspect that the results were somewhat skewed by the original question which presented 4 "stock" responses, and that other options were not accounted for) > > Do you reject the idea that alt is co-equal equivalence I do, and the survey tends to back me up, but again there remains much interpretation to be done. However, I get a sense that the terse, informational 'bite' value of @alt seems to be the overall preference: leave eloquence and haiku to @longdesc (listening HTML5 WG?). And what of the notorious spacer.gif of old. Trash-can please. And of purely decorative flourishes? CSS. It's 2009 for gosh sakes, and alt="" needs to simply disappear - if the image is important enough to put into a document *inline*, then it is important enough to have an @alt value. It's that simple (to me anyway) JF ============================ John Foliot Program Manager Stanford Online Accessibility Program http://soap.stanford.edu Stanford University Tel: 650-862-4603 Soap Is a program directed by the Vice Provost for Student Affairs ============================
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