- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:45:05 -0400 (EDT)
- To: "Jean-Marie D'Amour" <jmdamour@videotron.ca>
- cc: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>, <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchate@snv.jussieu.fr>
Yes, this is a big limitation for the Web for people who use Jaws. Do you
know if it works when you use the following style rule in a user style sheet:
del { text-decoration: underline }
cheers
Charles
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Jean-Marie D'Amour wrote:
Hello Chuck,
In fact, in the virtual PC mode, the only attribute that JAWS mention is
underline, all others are normal.
It is a limitation for the Web because in Word this function works fine.
Jean-Marie
A 07:49 2002-05-24, Jean-Marie D'Amour a écrit :
>Hello Chuck,
>
>JAWS is unable to read the del element and the configuration that ask JAWS
>to say atribute changes is inoperant with the del visual apperance.
>
>Jean-Marie D'Amour
>
>A 22:07 2002-05-23, Chuck Letourneau a écrit :
>>You can view the copy of the "Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility"
>>draft that I captured for editing at: http://www.starlingweb.com/wai/eval1.htm
>>In some places I have used the del element of HTML to show replaced text.
>>If this is annoying (or inaccessible) I will remove it. I have not
>>highlighted new text.
>>
>>I have started working from the change log entries
>>[http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/impl/changelog.html] for the eval
>>doc. As I expected, the editing raises further questions.
>>
>>1. For instance, I made the changes for the edit suggested by this entry
>>in the change log:
>> 3.2.2 more diversity in tool examples [20011022]
>> [20020410] remove the "as above" in comprehensive, and repeat
>> it explicitly in comprehensive review (re-cite the external ref list);
>>
>>I think the change (i.e. repeating the list) does improve
>>comprehension. However, similar constructs (i.e. references to lists in
>>Preliminary Review) appear in 3.3.2.1 and 3.3.3.1. Question: if we
>>explicitly repeat the list of tools/steps for 3.2.2, shouldn't we repeat
>>them for these points as well?
>>
>>2. Regarding 2.2.3, the change log states
>>
>> clarify purpose of changing the font size (2.2.3) [20011030]
>> [20020410] (1) [done/cl/20020523:clarify _will_ the font size
>> change on the screen accordingly; and is the page still usable.
>>
>>I interpreted the point in this way: "use browser controls to vary
>>font-size: verify that the font size changes on the screen accordingly;
>>and that the page is still usable at larger font sizes." Comments?
>>
>>
>>3. Regarding 2.2.5:
>>
>> questioning what printing page accomplishes (2.2.5) [20011030]
>> [20020412] it is useful for some people, so we will leave this
>> in, however it's not required and you don't have to use it.
>>
>>My concern isn't with the change log comment (which I agree with). The
>>point currently reads "change the display color to black and white (or
>>print out page on black and white printer) and observe whether color
>>contrast is adequate."
>>Question: Isn't black and white (i.e. 2-color) display or printing
>>unrealistic or extreme? Would this be better as "change the display
>>color to gray-scale (or print out page on a gray-scale printer) and
>>observe whether color contrast is adequate." ?
>>
>>4. Regarding 2.2.6 - I made the change suggested in the change log:
>>
>> clarify without the mouse (2.2.6) [20011030]
>> [20020412] agreed, change to without using the mouse
>>
>>I think this point has further problems, even after the suggested
>>change. I think the following wording would improve it: "without using
>>the mouse tab through the links and form controls on a page, making sure
>>that you can access all links and form controls, and that the links
>>clearly indicate what they lead to and form control labels clearly
>>identify their purpose." Actually, I think the latter part of this point
>>should be a separate bullet... the availability of links and controls is
>>a separate issue from link and label clarity.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Chuck Letourneau
>>
>
>Jean-Marie D'Amour M.Éd.
>Formateur
>CAMO pour personnes handicapées
>www.camo.qc.ca
>
Jean-Marie D'Amour M.Éd.
Formateur
CAMO pour personnes handicapées
www.camo.qc.ca
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