- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:45:05 -0400 (EDT)
- To: "Jean-Marie D'Amour" <jmdamour@videotron.ca>
- cc: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>, <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchate@snv.jussieu.fr>
Yes, this is a big limitation for the Web for people who use Jaws. Do you know if it works when you use the following style rule in a user style sheet: del { text-decoration: underline } cheers Charles On Fri, 24 May 2002, Jean-Marie D'Amour wrote: Hello Chuck, In fact, in the virtual PC mode, the only attribute that JAWS mention is underline, all others are normal. It is a limitation for the Web because in Word this function works fine. Jean-Marie A 07:49 2002-05-24, Jean-Marie D'Amour a écrit : >Hello Chuck, > >JAWS is unable to read the del element and the configuration that ask JAWS >to say atribute changes is inoperant with the del visual apperance. > >Jean-Marie D'Amour > >A 22:07 2002-05-23, Chuck Letourneau a écrit : >>You can view the copy of the "Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility" >>draft that I captured for editing at: http://www.starlingweb.com/wai/eval1.htm >>In some places I have used the del element of HTML to show replaced text. >>If this is annoying (or inaccessible) I will remove it. I have not >>highlighted new text. >> >>I have started working from the change log entries >>[http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/impl/changelog.html] for the eval >>doc. As I expected, the editing raises further questions. >> >>1. For instance, I made the changes for the edit suggested by this entry >>in the change log: >> 3.2.2 more diversity in tool examples [20011022] >> [20020410] remove the "as above" in comprehensive, and repeat >> it explicitly in comprehensive review (re-cite the external ref list); >> >>I think the change (i.e. repeating the list) does improve >>comprehension. However, similar constructs (i.e. references to lists in >>Preliminary Review) appear in 3.3.2.1 and 3.3.3.1. Question: if we >>explicitly repeat the list of tools/steps for 3.2.2, shouldn't we repeat >>them for these points as well? >> >>2. Regarding 2.2.3, the change log states >> >> clarify purpose of changing the font size (2.2.3) [20011030] >> [20020410] (1) [done/cl/20020523:clarify _will_ the font size >> change on the screen accordingly; and is the page still usable. >> >>I interpreted the point in this way: "use browser controls to vary >>font-size: verify that the font size changes on the screen accordingly; >>and that the page is still usable at larger font sizes." Comments? >> >> >>3. Regarding 2.2.5: >> >> questioning what printing page accomplishes (2.2.5) [20011030] >> [20020412] it is useful for some people, so we will leave this >> in, however it's not required and you don't have to use it. >> >>My concern isn't with the change log comment (which I agree with). The >>point currently reads "change the display color to black and white (or >>print out page on black and white printer) and observe whether color >>contrast is adequate." >>Question: Isn't black and white (i.e. 2-color) display or printing >>unrealistic or extreme? Would this be better as "change the display >>color to gray-scale (or print out page on a gray-scale printer) and >>observe whether color contrast is adequate." ? >> >>4. Regarding 2.2.6 - I made the change suggested in the change log: >> >> clarify without the mouse (2.2.6) [20011030] >> [20020412] agreed, change to without using the mouse >> >>I think this point has further problems, even after the suggested >>change. I think the following wording would improve it: "without using >>the mouse tab through the links and form controls on a page, making sure >>that you can access all links and form controls, and that the links >>clearly indicate what they lead to and form control labels clearly >>identify their purpose." Actually, I think the latter part of this point >>should be a separate bullet... the availability of links and controls is >>a separate issue from link and label clarity. >> >>Regards, >>Chuck Letourneau >> > >Jean-Marie D'Amour M.Éd. >Formateur >CAMO pour personnes handicapées >www.camo.qc.ca > Jean-Marie D'Amour M.Éd. Formateur CAMO pour personnes handicapées www.camo.qc.ca -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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