- From: gregory j. rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:08:59 -0400
- To: <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
JB: is the tone of intro paragraph better now? GJR: excellent... JB: is the representative sampling of pages ok w/ the entry page added? GJR: i would slightly expand the "representative sampling" to include: a) feedback mechanisms; b) login/user authentification mechanism(s), if any; c) search facility (both "simple" and "advanced", if present); d) main/top-level help document for site; and, most importantly: e) at least one page which you feel confident will pass the review; f) at least one page which you are sure will fail the review; JB: I moved the note about reviewers with disabilities sometimes needing to pair up (to second step of preliminary review); does that work? JB: in the sub-list of five "browser tricks," are the instructions about what to do clear and useful? GJR: yes, but i would add: <PROPOSED-GJR1> X. turn off support for stylesheets, to ensure that the page's "logical" structure is not dependent upon presentation, and that no information is being conveyed through style alone; </PROPOSED-GJR1> JB: I added a note about "experienced users of screen readers" in step #3, with a little bit of caution in different directions, to try to work in what Carlos was saying since this seems to be a way to fit it in even in the preliminary review GJR: rather than <CURRENT href="http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/rev.html#prelim" id="prelim-step3-note"> (NOTE: experienced users of screen readers may substitute a screen reader for a voice or text browser, but if blind, may need a sighted partner to compare information available visually; if sighted, listen to it with eyes closed, then open eyes and confirm whether the information is equivalent) </CURRENT> i'd prefer a bit more explanation of (a) how to find out <PROPOSED-GJR2> (NOTE: Experienced users of screen readers may substitute a screen reader for a voice or text browser, and should take care to note differences when the same screen reader is used to review the same content with a variety of browsers. Blind evaluators will need to either carefully document/record every interaction with the content being tested so that their feedback can be compared with that of a visual evaluation of the page, or to partner with a sighted colleague who can compare the information available aurally and/or tactilely with what is available visually. Sighted evaluators using a screen-reader or self-voicing browser, should test each page twice. First, unplug your mouse and turn off your monitor and attempt to navigate and interact with the page; then, leaving your mouse unplugged, turn on your monitor, and reload the page. Repeat your interaction with the page, noting what information is available to your sense of sight that isn't available to your sense of hearing. Any interactive components of the page should be easy to locate; interaction with these components must not be predicated solely upon the presence or absence of a specific device, such as a mouse. </PROPOSED-GJR2> which also reminds me that another advantage of the WAVE, which should be noted in Step 3 is that it enables the deaf evaluator to simulate testing with a voice browser/screen-reader JB: other comments on preliminary review section of this document? it is shaping up well -- more comments on/suggestions for other sections to follow... gregory. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds. -- George Santayana ------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html -------------------------------------------------------------------
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