- From: Chuck Letourneau <cpl@starlingweb.com>
- Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:10:21 -0400
- To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Cc: allan_jm@tsb1.tsbvi.edu, w3c-wai-eo@w3.org
Charles...
Thanks for your comments. As chair of the WCAG I am extremely sensitive to
the issue of strict compliance to W3C specs (and I support it in
principle). However, I do not want to be responsible for a decision that
will possibly exclude Netscape users from getting the most from the
Curriculum. I leave that decision to the Chair and the WG as a whole.
Pointing people to browsers that do the job properly is tricky (although I
do make some backhanded attempt at it in the introductory slides).
As for class="id" using an actual attribute as the value, I think I only
used that in my explanation of the fix, and did not use it "in real life"
anywhere in the curriculum. I will be careful to avoid it in future.
Cheers!
Chuck
At 02/06/99 02:20 PM , Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>Chuck,
>
>What I tended to do in the tutorials I wrote was to name browsers which had
>big bugs in them. And point out that this was a bug, and that using a
>work-around to suit the browser would just mess it up for everyone else.
>
>It is a pretty religious position to take, that standards are really
>important. Fortunately there are alternatives - just point people to the
>browsers which do the job properly - in this case IE, Opera, W3, ...
>
>(also, you probably should avoid class="id" since id is the name of a
>possible attribute. So you should have class="identifier" or class="xxx" or
>pretty much anything else...
>
>cheers
>
>Charles
>
>PS I was told that you work with Deirdre Bagot - say hi from me.
>PPS Is it wet in all of Ontario, or only in Hamilton?
>
>On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Chuck Letourneau wrote:
>
> Charles... you have identified, but not helped solve, the biggest problem
> with the curriculum. I simply do not know how to do what is "right" and
> have it work on more than one mainstream browser at time. If I use
> compliant code, the Netscape users out there will see either a broken style
> or possibly even find their system crashing occasionally (mine does!). If
> I use incompliant code, then both IE and Netscape users will see the
> intended page. It makes me want to cry, but there it is. If you have a
> simple solution, I would love to hear it.
>
> Cheers!
> Chuck Letourneau
>
> At 01/06/99 01:01 PM , Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
> >But removing the quote marks means you have invalid HTML which is a Bad
>Thing
> >(Pat. Pend.)
> >
> >Charles
> >
> >On Mon, 31 May 1999, Chuck Letourneau wrote:
> >
> > My fixes or comments are preceded by CPL::
> >
> > CPL:: This one was due to the fact that Netscape doesn't like quotation
> > marks around style ID calls (e.g. <div class="id">). If you write it as
> > <div class=id> then Netscape understands it. Again, IE doesn't care one
> > way or the other.
> >
>
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