- From: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:36:00 -0500
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Hi everyone,
My piece by piece approach to these comments was getting hard to keep
track of, so I've made up a new version of our comments table with the
comment issues in the 2nd column and my proposals in the third column.
New text (proposals or my comments) are labelled "[NEW]" in displayed in
bold.
See attached.
Thoughts?
Cheers,
Jan
Jan Richards wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> These are comments that Barry has collected:
>
> (Thanks Barry, this will give the group a lot to work on!)
>
> [1]
>
> Everything in Part A which talks to the UI of the authoring tool should
> be consistent with WCAG 2.0. In general, where the ATAG guideline intent
> is the same as WCAG, use the WCAG language. For example:
>
> 1. ATAG A.2.1: "Ensure that all functionality is operable via a
> keyboard or keyboard interface." WCAG 2.0: "Make all functionality
> operable via a keyboard interface."
> 2. ATAG A.2.3 : "Allow authors to control time limits on their
> reading or interaction." WCAG 2.0: "Allow users to control time
> limits on their reading or interaction."
>
>
> [2]
>
> ATAG glossary should be consistent with WCAG 2.0 glossary. For example,
> the definition of a keyboard interface. You may have a voice reco
> system. Using a voice reco system to insert text should not be precluded
> by having a physical keyboard to also do the insertion.
>
> [3]
>
> Some people still don't understand how the Relative Priority items are
> calculated.
> "Some are clear, while others could be issues for meeting ATAG
> compliance. For example, can you give a better explanation of how a
> specific checkpoint like B.2.2. will apply to tools if we say all tools
> must meet all ATAG P1 guidelines while conforming to WCAG 2.0 and not
> WCAG 1.0."
>
>
> Guideline specific comments:
>
> [4]
>
> A.1.3 "Ensure that displays are configurable" is not clear until you
> read the success criteria. It sounds like you are talking about
> hardware displays rather than display settings. I recommend "Make
> visual and audio display settings configurable." or "Make visual and
> audio display preferences configurable." I also think that "Make" is a
> better verb than "Ensure" for this guideline. You are talking about
> settings for the UI of the tool, so you must *make* them configurable.
>
>
> [5]
>
> A.1.4 "Allow the display preferences for the editing view to be changed
> without affecting the document markup." By saying "Allow" this implies
> that the display preferences will change the document markup view and
> you must provide an option to prevent that from happening. The language
> should be "*Ensure* the document markup view is not changed when the
> display preferences for the editing view are changed."
>
>
> [6]
>
> "Authoring system must be access system friendly" is not strong enough.
> Being "friendly" doesn't mean that it works with AT. I recommend
> something more like "Authoring system must work with current assistive
> technology" which is more consistent with the WCAG principle that
> "...content must be robust enough to work with current and future
> technology". Working and being "friendly" are two different things.
>
>
> [7]
>
> A.2.4 Allow authors to avoid content that could cause seizures due to
> photosensitivity. [Priority 1] - Are sure you don't want to just allow
> the user to be able to control the rate as opposed to just turning off
> flashing. What determines flashing? Some flashing is not harmful. This
> seems like an all or nothing.
>
>
> [8]
>
> A.2.5 For usable access suggest this be a P1. Users have problems with
> model-based authoring tools because of this today.
>
>
> [9]
>
> A.3.2 For usable access suggest the be a P1. *Maintain consistency
> within the authoring tool user interface. [Priority 2]*
>
>
> [10]
>
> Suggest documenting accessibility implementation for AT vendors be a P3?
> For example, this would encompass what MSAA APIs were supported per widget.
>
>
> [11]
>
> The techniques outlined for "Maintain consistency" sound like P1 items,
> not P2. Especially in a tool, you don't want icons to have more than
> one function or UI controls performing multiple functions. Making the
> Authoring UI understandable takes more than just documenting
> accessibility features. I think many items in A.3.2. techniques should
> be P1 for this guideline.
>
>
> [12]
>
> A.4.1 Concern over how tough this is to enforce (i.e., what version
> number of JAWS, which AT products?)
>
>
> [13]
>
> B.1.1 Comment received ("not sure I understand it"): For example,
> PowerPoint can be delivered from the Web - per WCAG 2. Why not limit
> this to any technology delivered through the Web? WCAG 1.0 does not fit
> this mold due to its HTML- like dependencies but WCAG 2 does.
>
>
> [14]
>
> Support of new content types is not clear. For example, does the
> success criteria for *Support content types that enable the creation of
> Web content that conforms to **_WCAG_*
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-ATAG20-20051123/#Relationship-To-WCAG>
> mean that if a company develops or uses a content type and
> there is no content-type specific WCAG benchmark then the tool is not
> compliant? Does this get us into the type of situation we had with
> JavaScript in WCAG 1.0 where it was supported, but you still couldn't
> implement a JavaScript site and be WCAG compliant?
>
>
> [15]
>
> B.1.2 Comment: For recognized markup - this should be a P1.
>
> Why would this be a P2? If a new technology comes along with
> unrecognized markup, shouldn't the tool preserve that? [When]
> accessibility information is not preserved ... the authors have to add
> it back in. What is the rationale for being P2?
>
> Perhaps we need to make a statement on recognized markup, i.e., it must
> be preserved!
>
>
> [16]
>
> B.1.4 Need to better explain relative priority.
>
>
> [17]
>
> B.2.1 - B.2.3 General issue if you make use of tool by PwD P1 and you
> make authoring content for PwD something less (say RP). Some audiences
> may choose to make authoring more critical than use by PwD.
>
>
> [18]
>
> B.2.1 *Prompt and assist the author to create content that conforms to
> **_WCAG_*
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-ATAG20-20051123/#Relationship-To-WCAG>.
> B.2.2 *Check for and inform the author of accessibility problems* and
> B.2.3 *Assist authors in repairing accessibility problems*
>
>
> [19]
>
> Many vendors do not do prompting and/or repair in current
> tools. This could be a major issue for them. [Some vendors have] tools
> that make it possible (with a lot of work) to create accessible content,
> but there is no prompting. This is a relative priority, so its unclear
> the exact impact to these companies.
>
> Commenter's opinion: Its not that they shouldn't provide this support,
> but we don't understand the impact since these are Relative Priority.
>
>
> [20]
>
> B.2.6 *Provide the author with a summary of accessibility status*. This
> is a P3 but seems more doable than the Relative priority items in B2.1,
> B2.2, and B2.3. Why would this be P3, seems more like P2 according to
> the ATAG definition of priority.
>
>
> [21]
>
> B.2.7 Suggest this be P1. This seems in conflict with what is trying to
> be accomplished. How can anyone use the authoring tool to accomplish the
> task of producing accessible content if in fact that author does not
> know the capabilities of the tool? Example require keyboard access
> features to be documented.
>
>
> [22]
>
> *B.3.2 Ensure that accessibility prompting, checking, repair functions,
> and documentation are always clearly available to the author. [Priority
> 2] *as P2 is inconsistent with all checkpoints in B.2.x. If you say it
> isn't Priority 1 to make the features described in B.2.x available, then
> does that mean you don't have to do them?
>
> ==================================================
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
>
--
Jan Richards, M.Sc.
User Interface Design Specialist
Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC)
Faculty of Information Studies
University of Toronto
Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
Web: http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
Phone: 416-946-7060
Fax: 416-971-2896
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