At 04:45 AM 10/31/2004, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>Presumably writing actual techniques for ATAG is a helpful thing to
>do...whaddaya reckon?
What I reckon is that using/demonstrating actual techniques, rather than
merely writing them is even more helpful, thus my call to this particular
panoply of doers to do so with the instant document. If we can dance this
dance it could well enhance our credibility in re our guideline songs'
siren claims. When the document recommends a certain font, it should
demonstrate the "why" through exemplification: show, don't just tell.
I don't know how to make the "expansion" of text (to reveal a clear/simple
alternative) seamless and easily achieved but I know I see it frequently in
things like the "what's this" implementation in lots of applications - or
even the tool tip phenomenon.
Practically no WAI documents do any of this and if it is desirable to
recommend it's even more important to institute - hence the "eat our own
dog food" urge that so often gets "acceptance" without implementation.
I recommend starting with Lisa's piece and have actually done a few little
things therein, but my programming skills are somewhere between rusty and
non-existent so I'm calling for help. And hoping that it might spread to
many other "documents".
Partly because Bob Regan is aggressive within MacroMedia and that their
DreamWeaver shows a little promise, I am optimistic that tools like it will
incorporate edge-pushing things like structure-extracting tools (in ATAG it
might be handy to separately isolate the "rationales" as a group, for one
example). In my long-ago incarnation as an assembly-language snob I
disdained any high level languages but to pretend that I could use a text
editor to achieve what is fairly trivial using something like XML Spy is
untenable.
If we can get "effects" that further our accessibility goals and said
effects can be fairly trivially achieved by some tool will hasten the
appearance of ATAG-compliant systems and these in turn will become
inclusive of User Agents that recursively include the generation of
content, especially including a means by which folks who used to be
considered passive audiences will become annotators/indexers/creators
rather than empty vessels to be filled by the superior knowledge of elite
authors.
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