- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:23:14 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
- cc: love26@gorge.net, au <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Well, most tools allow the modification of markup if they have a source or structure editing mode. But if it is only availabe in that way then they will fail 5.2, and cannot get ot double-A until they provide something that matches the rest of the tool operation (this of course doesn't apply to Notepad itself - that fails many other checkpoints though). The detection stuff is really a matter for AERT - authoring process techniques are what we need to have techniques for. Does anyone recall the beginning of teaching word-processing, in the late 70s and the 80s? Stuff like using styles in authoring was a big topic then (as well as argumetns about whether it was better to write everything and then clean it up, or clean it as you went, or some combination... which I recall being a discussion that was seeking a non-existent grail). Cheers Charles McCN On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Jan Richards wrote: So in terms of evaluation process (guideline 7 aside), it seems that the question to be asked is something like: Does the tool have either a means to detect and notify the author of instances of markup being misued to convey structure (ex. FONT changes used instead of header elements for headings) and suggest corrections or at least allow the author to manually modify this misused markup? (ATAG 4.5) (Most tools will pass this if they have notepad mode.) Cheers, Jan William Loughborough wrote: ... > 4.5 Allow the author to transform presentation markup that is misused to > convey structure into structural markup, and to transform presentation > markup used for style into style sheets. [Priority 3] > > To evaluate if a tool does this actually implies that it have some sort > of means to find instances of these practices to help the author by > pointing them out. At the very least the tool MUST allow changes of this > sort to be made. > > Guideline 7 intro: "The style preferences of the editing view must not > affect the markup of the published document." > > One should actually be able to use a personalized sytle sheet for doing > any edits without the chosen styles having any effect on the final > product. -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia
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