- From: Mike Paciello <paciello@ma.ultranet.com>
- Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:53:03 -0400
- To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>
- Cc: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>, "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
...thus my point that you need to observe both types of users. Establish some basis for creating the guideline. Perhaps IBM has done this already? I just think that guidelines that are as debatable as this one need a foundation to work from. Otherwise these discussions are endless circles of opinions and not established criteria. (By the way, I'm not saying that the guidelines as a unit are debatable. Just this particular guideline). - Mike At 11:28 AM 4/8/1999 -0700, Kynn Bartlett wrote: >At 02:16 p.m. 04/08/99 -0400, Mike Paciello wrote: >>What bothers me about this conversation is that those participating are all >>people with sight. I think the discussion is almost pointless until you >>properly observe and study the user's experience. > >At risk of repeating myself and at larger risk of being misunderstood, >I will again point out that accessibility is for everyone :), not >just one set (be that "people who can see" or "people who can't >see" or whatever) and thus my statements (or anyone's statements) on >what makes the web more useful for _them_ should be as valid as anyone >else's statements. :) > >So I'm saying that as a non-graphics-using web surfer, I have _this_ >opinion. Which, yes, is just an opinion, but then so is everyone >else's, including blind folks. Sure, I want to hear their opinions, >but for _my_ special needs -- using a browser without graphics -- >this is what I feel I'd like. :) > >I hope the PC police don't shoot me. Remember, accessibility for >everyone! Accessibility for everyone! aaaaaa they're coming to >take me aawaaaaaaaay >
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