Re: null alt revisited

Every now and then I stick my nose in as I follow these conversations. I
apologize for interrupting anyone's train of thought.

What bothers me about this conversation is that those participating are all
people with sight. I think the discussion is almost pointless until you
properly observe and study the user's experience. In this situation,
minimally, users who are blind and who use voice-output user agents (or
UA's with screen readers). Also those accessing the web via refreshable
braille displays.  Collect and analyze the data. Then perform the same
controlled tasks with users who are visual but use non-visual user agents
(phone browsers, text-browsers, etc..). Collect and analyze that data.
Compare the two studies. The result would give you the basis for developing
a guideline that INDUSTRY could fine reliable. Until then, it's nothing
more than an opinion. 

- Mike




At 01:45 PM 4/8/1999 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>Oh, maybe so. seems these days I get lots of [something_unhelpful.gif] but
>not much [IMAGE]
>
>Maybe some of the message is getting through. Or maybe I did figure out
>how to tell it not to show [IMAGE]
>
>Charles
>
>On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Kynn Bartlett wrote:
>
>  At 01:23 p.m. 04/08/99 -0400, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>  >I'm with Jim on this. It is also possible in most browsers to find out
>  >whether there are images there (in lynx press * or there is a stratup
>  >option) - if I want to know whether there are images I check explicitly.
>  
>  Then this is a browser issue -- you should be using a browser that
>  allows you to specify "don't display images" instead of generating
>  its own text that reads [IMAGE].  Remember, Lynx creates [IMAGE],
>  it's not anything defined in the HTML standard or on the HTML page
>  itself!
>  
>  --
>  Kynn Bartlett <kynn@hwg.org>
>  President, Governing Board Member
>  HTML Writers Guild <URL:http://www.hwg.org>
>  
>
>--Charles McCathieNevile            mailto:charles@w3.org
>phone: +1 617 258 0992   http://www.w3.org/People/Charles
>W3C Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/WAI
>MIT/LCS  -  545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139,  USA
>

Received on Thursday, 8 April 1999 14:15:44 UTC