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Re: COMMENTARY on Tutorials (English this time)

From: Coralie Mercier <coralie@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:31:14 +0900
To: "CE Whitehead" <cewcathar@hotmail.com>, w3c-translators@w3.org
Cc: www-html-editor-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.tjny6ceysvvqwp@phoenix.local>


Hello

I don't know what a commentary on tutorials is and how relevant that is to  
the w3c-translators list. Can you please clarify?

Thanks in advance

Coralie

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:28:12 +0900, CE Whitehead <cewcathar@hotmail.com>  
wrote:

> Hi, I am thinking of commenting on the following tutorials (in English  
> this time):
>
> Dave Raggett, "More Advanced Features" (of HTML),
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Advanced.html
>
> and
>
> Dave Raggett, "Adding a Touch of Style" (to HTML pages),
> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/Style.html
>
> Please let me know if such commentary would be in order
> (if Dr. Raggett is about to update either page, then I can skip this  
> commentary and wait and see if this commentary is in order)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --C. E. Whitehead
> cewcathar@hotmail.com
>
> The main notes I have are:
>
> 1.  GENERAL:
> XML served as a form of HTML, with XHTML, is now starting to be  
> preferred over HTML on the World Wide Web (XML is important in the  
> semantic web; it's possible to create one's own semantic categories  
> using XML; XML uses tree structures; trees--with roots, branches, and  
> branches from the branches (though I myself tend to think of the XML  
> structures as parenthetical comments inside of other parenthetical  
> comments) are one kind of data structure; tables--or arrays of  
> arrays--are another).
> The XHTML has some similarities to HTML, but has its own peculiarities.   
> Persons interested in learning HTML might also be interested in learning  
> about XML and XHTML!  See the W3C Recommendation, XHTML 1.0, for  
> information about XHTML.
>
> 2.  TABLES ("More Advanced Features"); FONT ("Adding a Touch of Style")
>
> The focus of the information/examples about Tables in "More Advanced  
> Features"/font size in "Adding a Touch of Style," seems to be in general  
> aimed at telling HTML writers how to create Tables that are more  
> accessible to all, with the font size relative to the user settings, and  
> the cell size flexible to accommodate when words are not wrapped.
>
> 2.a.  Tables of Pre-defined size (versus tables where the width is  
> defined as a percentage of window width; or tables where the width is  
> undefined) ("More Advanced Features"):
> Some writers however still use Tables to format pages; though style  
> codes that define divisions within the page today can similarly format a  
> page into rows and columns.
> If one opts to set the size of one's table in pixels, then perhaps one  
> should also specify the exact size of the font rather than a relative  
> font size, or the table size and column widths might be resized anyway  
> (the Mozilla browser, which never wraps longer text strings in a table  
> cell, does this; while the Internet Explorer browser can also wrap  
> longer text strings, for example, when the text string indicates a link).
> It's wise thus to opt for a relatively large font I guess to begin with  
> in pre-sized tables, to accommodate all users.
> It's of course possible to control word-wrapping completely in table  
> cells by inserting an additional division (a paragraph or other  
> division) within the cells, but word-wrapping is not one of the possible  
> attributes of table cells so it does not work with style definitions of  
> table cells; you have to add the division  (for HTML versions 4.0, 4.01).
>
> 3.  The Banner Add java script code in the section on Adding Java Script  
> to HTML Pages ("More Advanced Features")
>
> Onload is an action which can be called on only once in a page; the  
> "onload" code is normally placed in the Body tag and when placed in the  
> Body tag will generally happen about the same time the page loads  (I do  
> not know that much java script though; oh well; want to comment on it  
> anyway).
>
> 4.  ("Adding a Touch of Style")
> It's generally argued that the style codes (normally placed in the  
> headers; ideally place these in the headers, just above the body tag, if  
> there are no java script functions; otherwise place these in the headers  
> just before any java script functions are defined as java script  
> functions sometimes make use of the style definitions; of course, some  
> web hosts incorporate one's page into the body of a host-created page  
> and then the only place to place the style and java script function  
> definitions is under the body tag alas) are the best way to specify  
> paragraph and division formats.
> To change the style of a page using style definitions at the page top,  
> one just has to redo the style codes at the top and then check the new  
> display in a few browsers to make sure the page looks right.
> MS Word of course places the style information in the page division tags  
> themselves, in the body, so it's not so easy to edit Word created pages  
> using HTML; additionally, style definitions at the top of the page are  
> overwritten when edited by MS Word.
> (For someone who did not want to get Front Page or learn much HTML, I  
> redid her pages with the style codes in the page division tags so that  
> the page would not be automatically changed by Word.)
>
>
> I've got a few other notes as well, but nothing else major.
>
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