Re: Inconsistency of w3c translations

Hi Alois,

first of all, thank you for your kind words!

As usual, the problem is with the legacy data. Newer recommendations,
that have been published after the translation management system was
renewed a few years ago, use indeed the URI right into the search
system. Look at, for example,

http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-xml-id-20050909/

for XML-ID which does exactly that. The one you refer to, ie, SOAP 1.2
Primer, was published earlier, and indeed, got out of date:-( That is
what happens when manual updates is necessary, I am afraid... And we
indeed do not change older recommendations on-site.

For this case I will contact the maintener of that page. Using a
dynamically generated page is perfectly possible, maybe this is what he
will choose to do...

Thanks again!

Ivan

w3c_translation@warpmail.net wrote:
> Hello Ivan,
> 
> the new w3c translation page is wonderfull!
> 
> But I know that non-English speaking people who are looking for a
> translation, visit a recommendation page and not the w3c translation
> page to get to a translation. The problem is, that recommendations
> present a link to theire specific translation pages, which are not
> always up-to-date. But as a link from a recommendation page the visitor
> trusts it and consequently he gets the wrong impression that a specific
> translation page represents all available translations. So he omits to
> look at the w3c translation page (which is always up-to-date :).
> In my case (german translation of SOAP 1.2 Primer), the links and
> specific translation page (see http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/ and
> http://www.w3.org/2002/07/soap-translation/) have not been updated since
> my hint on 21 Dec. 2005. Actually I don't care about it, but some people
> gave me the advice to update the specific translation page. Just like
> you I'm not responsible for that pages. They all followed the link on
> the recommendation page and were surprised, when they accidentally found
> my translation on the w3c translation page, but not in the followed
> recommendation link.
> 
> Perhaps it would be better if recommendations would use a link to the
> static w3c translation page, e.g.
> "http://www.w3.org/2005/11/Translations/Lists/OverviewRecs.html#soap12-part0-45"
> to list all the translations of the SOAP Version 1.2 Primer. Or a
> dynamic generated w3c translation page, by using the w3c translation
> search
> ("http://www.w3.org/2005/11/Translations/Query?lang=any&rec=soap12-part0").
> 
> Well, I don't know, if there is a w3c guidance about how to compose a
> recommendation. If so, perhaps this idea could be part of it. It could
> make a contribution to expand the worldwide audience and definitely
> increase the consistency of all w3c translations.
> 
> Thank you, Alois

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