- From: <lee@sq.com>
- Date: Sat, 22 Feb 97 00:01:51 EST
- To: w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org
Michael, a well-written (as always) response. I wish to add one small comment to sonething Len wrote: > It will be ISO, authoritative ISO has no authority on the Internet. Actually, people generally conform to ISO standards because they choose to, not because they are forced to -- that is, people who make decisions about whether to conform. The IETF has authority over networking protocols used on the Internet. It's a different world... SGML and ISO are tolerated where they are useful and not overly intrusive, not obeyed. Frankly, after X.400 and OSI networking, few network programmers can have much respect (if any) for any "authority" of ISO. It will take a long time to regain confidence. It will be necessary to show that the ISO standards are well and clearly written, that they have been well tested before being approved, and that they really work in practice, before that confidence can be regained. The current HyTime standard meets none of those requirements (if it did, perhaps the TC wouldn't be so badly needed). Neither does the SGML standard (sorry). I think that DSSSL comes close, and if it lacks anything it is in the area of testing; ISO doesn't have the IETF's concept of a trial implementation period. I wouldn't really have a problem with referring to DSSSL, even if it is (to me) a little overly legalistic. But I see no point in referring to HyTime, with or without TC. If by some happy coincidence it turns out that XML is expressible HyTime -- and Eliot assures us that any scheme whatsoever is so expresible if a grove plan be constructible -- then a separate document can explain that. An RFC for hyperlinking will carry immeasurably more weight in IETF and World Wide Web circles than any number of ISO standards. As I understand it, W3C recommendations become RFCs, so we have a route there. ISO standards may now (as of 1994) reference IETF standards track RFCs in their normative text, and vice versa. Sorry for a long reply. I am not trying (although it may seem like it) to put down ISO, which does a useful job; rather, I am trying to point out and expand a little upon a cultural difference. Lee
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