- From: David Durand <dgd@cs.bu.edu>
- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:29:14 -0500
- To: w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org
At 8:25 AM -0600 2/21/97, len bullard wrote: >Peter Flynn wrote: >> >> David Durand writes: >> >> > And we don't need to drag HyTime in to explain that. >> >> Amen. > >Dead wrong. > >First, "drag in" is inflamatory not helpful. If it is an >arch form, then referencing ISO 10744 does not hurt. >Second, when SGML Lite is established by ISO, it makes >the relationship clear and concise. I meant that if we are taking a significantly shrunken subset of HyTime Architectural Forms [for instance, I think we can and should avoid any restrictions on content models], then it may be simpler to explain what we are doing directly, rather than pointing at HyTime, and explaining the differences. If you are defining a scripting language containing only the commands "if-then-else", expressions, variable assignment and "while" loops, pointing to C++ and saying what to ignore is not a productive explanatory strategy. You might mention that C++ compaitibility is a goal, but that would be additional information for the intersted, not part of the core explanation. "Drag in" was intended to say that making normative reference to irrelevant information is bad. In a separate message (maybe the same, for all I remember) I clearly advocated retaining a reference to HyTime, and it's AF facilities. I personally think it was a mistake to try to standardise them for applicability beyond HyTime, but they exist and we should not hide that fact. I'm not trying to supress the HyTime links -- HyTime has been very influential in forming how at least some of us think about this stuff -- but I do want to make XML, and XML linking stand on their own, without normative references to ISO standards. >Y'all are wandering into the weeds of religion and personal >animosities. It won't help. No personal animosity intended, nor religious argument either. I'm religious about separating declaration and processing (though if we don't define sufficiently powerful processing, I agree with you, we are SOL). I'm certainly not religious about HyTime either way. In fact, I'm aggressively agnostic. I think you may mistrust me because I'm so ready to question HyTime's specific solutions, but I don't regret having spent the time on it that I have, nor do I think it should be supressed. -- David _________________________________________ David Durand dgd@cs.bu.edu \ david@dynamicDiagrams.com Boston University Computer Science \ Sr. Analyst http://www.cs.bu.edu/students/grads/dgd/ \ Dynamic Diagrams --------------------------------------------\ http://dynamicDiagrams.com/ MAPA: mapping for the WWW \__________________________
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