- From: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:54:23 +0100
- To: RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0001.html Transcript: http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2003-08-01 swebscrape:N3:python: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/scripts/minutes2n3.py date: 2003-08-01 2 Roll call: Dan Brickley Dave Beckett (scribe) Jos deRoo Mike Dean Jan Grant Pat Hayes Graham Klyne Frank Manola Eric Miller Brian McBride (chair) Regrets: Jeremy Carroll, Patrick Stickler 3 Review agenda: AOB implementation report 4 Next telcon: 8 August 2003 10:00 Boston time Scribe: Jan Grant offered, offered tentative regrets 5 Minutes of 25 Jul 2003 approved http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jul/att-0393/rdfcore-2003-07-25-minutes.txt 6. Completed actions Confirmed Later, on 20030718#5 draft text for primer and work with Frank to integrate it the action is complete - text is drafted, however may not yet be integreated. 7 Miscellaneous actions 20030425#10 em carry xmlsch WG's offer of help wrt xmlsch-12 to semantic web coordination group DONE 20030711#4 danc to get a test case for pfps-09 into OWL test case doc CONTINUED 8 [ASCII] Bel in plain literals Discussion that there are some Unicode characters allowed in plain literals but neither in xsd:strings or not legal in XML. PatH is working on new wording. This is another issue where graphs cannot be written in XML. 9 I18N Update BWM attended I18N telcon tuesday to get a better understanding. Issues that he saw were: * Markup integrity - picking markup out of xml and have to mark it to keep it's language context such as by html <span xml:lang=".."> </span>. then you have modified the markup and might not be able to reconstruct it. * Mixed text - similar argument * Comparing plain literals with XML literals - such as comparing "lit" with "lit"^^rdf:XMLLiteral No clear test cases so far. 10 Primer Will be updated by Monday 4th August BWM still owes a review 11 Concepts Words about XML literals still needs some changes ACTION 2003-08-01#1 bwm will take a pass through concepts and send jeremy a todo list for catchup after holiday ASAP 12 Syntax Some changes pending - SVG (draft sent to list already), XML literal (yet to be sent) and the conformance statement. Macintosh file type is not same in syntax document and the draft MIME type registration doc. ACTION 2003-08-01#2 daveb: sync with aaron on macintosh file type and make sure the docs are consistent and use the same type 13 Schema Latest RDFS status update in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0016.html Several changes till being drafted - on pfps-11 change response http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0014.html and new issue on words in comments of rdfs:comment describing rdfs:member. Managing the documents at the namespace URIs - danbri wanted help in splitting the rdf/xml in the appendix: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-schema-20030117/rdfs-namespace.xml into two for the namespace docs. ACTION 2003-08-01#3 bwm: help danbri split the rdf schema appendix into the 2 new namespace URIs rdf schema documents by Monday 4th August. Later in the meeting danbri updated http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema 15 Test Cases A couple of clarification responses to make on bagId (Arjohn) and on HP's run of the test cases by Dave Reynolds - only one significant issue there. JanG will rebuild the test case zip. ACTION 2003-08-01#4 jang: respond to daveR on his comments on testcases JosD raised that it was a shame that test cases which forward reasoners will fail on and with respect to whitespace facets for XML schema datatypes, most XSD implementions accept " 3 " as a valid XSD int rather than the strictly invalid that it is. ACTION 2003-08-01#5 bwm put the invalid xsd int " 3 " on jjc's todo list 16 implementation report Use cases http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/EO/usecases/ EMiller reported that it needs filling out and waiting for C# implementation (Drive). JosD reported he has one, eulersharp http://sourceforge.net/projects/eulersharp which implements more than just RDF/XML parsing in C#. Draft PR advance http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030331-advance.html Use case reports: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/EO/usecases/reports Discussion of implementation not just over implementation language but coverage and interoperation. Schema, entailments, editors, users of the vocabularies. JosD reported Euler currently fails 5 tests (some are the xsd " 5 " being valid) however this is the same for Jena2 with DaveR, since they use the same libraries. DaveB noted 3Store currently fails 1. Emiller expecting an implementation report from cwm, surnia (Sandro Hawke) DaveB owes EMiller a report for redland. WebOnt request to proceed to CR at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/rqim.html was submitted 2003-07-30 DaveB offers to help EMiller with the implementation report. Group concurred that the documents would be read for PR/CR proposal next week. It is not yet decided whether to go to PR or CR. Prepare to vote on proceeding and which choice. 14 Semantics PatH has fixed the various bugs (rdfs inconsistency) and tweak to the value space for XML literals. A discussion of whether the empty graph entails (simple or rdf-entails) rdf:_1 rdf:type Property. [scribe lost the thread here] END
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