- From: Graham Klyne <Graham.Klyne@MIMEsweeper.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:57:10 +0000
- To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
I think there may be a difference between incorporating the principles of datatyping (yes) and assuming knowledge of all the datatypes used (problematic). So, yes, it's important to define the concept of a datatype, and how it works in conjunction with literals but, I think, also to retain the idea that there is a basic form of entailment in which no knowledge of the datatype mappings is assumed, distinct from a datatyped entailment in which such knowledge is assumed. E.g. in "basic" entailment: Jenny age "10"^^xsd:integer . does not entail Jenny age "010"^^xsd:integer . But in a xsd:integer-aware entailment (with knowledge that datatype xsd:integer maps "10" and "010" to the same value) one *can* draw the entailment. (Hoping this helps rather than confuses.) #g -- At 10:19 PM 10/30/02 -0600, pat hayes wrote: >Er..... guys, I need guidance. I was under the impression that our >editoral task included incorporating the various aspects of datatyping >into our various documents, and that rather than being a separate >appendix, as it were, to RDF, that datatyping was now to be fully >integrated into the main thread. In the context of the MT, this means that >datatyping is pretty much the first thing that gets mentioned, since one >needs it to define what a typed literal means, and one needs that in order >to state the basic triple semantics for RDF in section 1.5. In other >words, in the document I am now working on, there will be no such thing as >a non-datatyped interpretation: datatyping will be built into the very >foundation of the language. RDF will *include* datatyping. > >Recent messages from Dan C and Jeremy and Jos, however, have made me >realize that some of us apparently expect the MT to be structured rather >like it has been in the past, in that there would be a simple basic RDF >notion of interpretation which had no such built-in stuff, and datatyping >would be one of the later additions. > >So my question is, will incorporating datatyping into the basic RDF MT >cause anyone grief? In particular, will it break the proposed API designs >apparently being developed? Because if so, we have some hard thinking to >do. I really don't see how I can make sense of typed literals without >talking about datatypes and datatype mappings. > >Pat > > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >IHMC (850)434 8903 home >40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office >Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax >FL 32501 (850)291 0667 cell >phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes >s.pam@ai.uwf.edu for spam ------------------- Graham Klyne <GK@NineByNine.org>
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