- From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
- Date: 26 Nov 2002 09:16:53 -0600
- To: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 08:51, Jeremy Carroll wrote:
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> I completed my investigation doc.
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> See:
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> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Nov/att-0092/02-index.ht
> ml
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> More important points are:
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> - there are issues with the XSD document: most is clear, a small part is
> clear in the opposite direction.
Yes, clearly this text is inconsistent with other parts of the
spec:
| Note that a consequence of the above is that, given
| ·value space· A and ·value space· B where A and B are not
| related by ·restriction· or ·union·, for every pair of values
| a from A and b from B, a != b.
I'd like this WG to report our problems with that text.
Failing that, I guess Jeremy and I can report it.
> - types derived by restriction correspond to rdfs:subClassOf
> - don't use xsd:QName, xsd:ENTITY, xsd:ENTITIES
Amen. I came to that same conclusion in my investigation.
http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/util/datatypes.n3
I found that all these were goofy:
# dt:QName # omitted due to ambiguity
# dt:NOTATION # omitted; DTD support not merited
# NMTOKEN
# NMTOKENS
# ID
# IDREF
# IDREFS
# ENTITY
# ENTITIES
some for more aesthetic than technical reasons, I suppose.
> - even if we stick to the bits that are clear then implementation looks
> hard.
Yes; I didn't have this information when we made our 11Oct
decision.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Oct/0131.html
(items 7 and 8)
Though I was vaguely concerned...
[[
I'm quite concerned that the rdf:datatype proposal
is too complex to deal with in a timely manner;
The sorts of questions Graham asks in his 30Sep
message...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Sep/0370.html
could take quite a while to sort out.
We really expect to
get all this abstract syntax of integers/dates stuff right?
]]
-- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Oct/0031.html
Likewise the 6Sep decision
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Sep/0081.html
(item 10)
I'm considering asking to reopen them.
> Particularly any test that relies on finiteness of a datatype, or of an
> intersection between datatypes.
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>
> Another hard entailment:
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> _:a rdfs:subClassOf xsd:postiveInteger .
> _:a rdfs:subClassOf xsd:byte .
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> entails
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> _:a rdfs:subClassOf xsd:unsignedLong .
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> (I don't think my paper helps much with that one).
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> Jeremy
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