- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 04 Nov 2002 10:57:46 +0000
- To: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Cc: "Patrick Stickler" <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>, w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu> writes: <snip/> > >No, but it's a matter of authority. If the "owner" of the datatype > >(the agency that has the authority to define it) says there is no > >ordering for the members of its value space, then it doesn't have > >an ordering. > > I can't make sense of this. It sounds to me like saying that because > Im not interested in the colors of the bindings of my books, that > therefore they have no colors. Look, I can take one of these unordered > value spaces and *I* can define an ordering on it. Of course it *has* > an ordering. In fact, if its finite with cardinality N, it has > N-factorial orderings. Authority is fine, but its unwise to claim > authority over Platonic abstractions. Further to my other postings, _all_ it means in practice for W3C XML Schema to say that e.g. the anyURI simple type is unordered is that you can't use the max/min facets to constrain subtypes thereof. Applications are free to define operations which depend on an ordering which they also define. As you say, strings are a good example -- most people agree they're ordered, few can agree on what the order actually _is_. ht -- Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh W3C Fellow 1999--2002, part-time member of W3C Team 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam]
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