- From: patrick hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 11:41:48 -0500
- To: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <p05111a0ab92fcb733d13@[65.217.30.123]>
>On 2002-06-12 20:07, "ext patrick hayes" <phayes@ai.uwf.edu> wrote: > >> >>> At 09:52 AM 6/12/02 +0100, Jan Grant wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed; I'd rather see some syntactic mechanism for darkening (or more >>>> generally, colouring*) triples that doesn't rely on URI inspection. In >>>> particular, URI inspection doesn't need to be written into the MT >>>> documents - it should just appeal to darkness (or otherwise) that's >>>> determined through a mechanism external to the document. >>> >>> Speaking personally, me too. But that does seem to require a syntax >>> extension, which may be difficult at this stage. >> >> I really do NOT want to introduce a syntax extension, which >> introduces all kinds of extra complexity. > >I thought the MT already provided for such a distiction. I meant, complexity in the syntax documents, Ntriples and so on. This whole discussion is trivial form a purely MT point of view. > > We have agreed that >> contexts are out of scope. > >I never proposed contexts. > >> What is wrong with URI inspection? > >Because you *CANNOT* know for sure what namespace URI was used >to generate some term URI by inspecting the term URI. That information >is iretrievably discarded during parsing. > >Get over it folks. It can't be done. Let's please move on and >consider other, actually possible mechanisms. OK? Look, we must be in a disconnect here. Are you saying that when some software reads some RDF, that it cannot possibly tell that http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type is the symbol 'type' on the normative W3C website? You sure seem to be saying that. I bow to your expertise, but it seems to me that if this is true, then we are in much deeper doo-doo than anything to do with dark triples. ><snip> >Rather, the graph syntax should have an explicit mechanism >that 'colors' triples as asserted or unasserted, No, it MUST NOT have such a mechanism. Any such mechanism in the graph is inherently non-monotonic. This whole idea is a dead horse. Pat -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)322 0319 cell 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax
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