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Re: new semantics initiative

From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:09:46 +0300
To: Pat Hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>, Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
CC: RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B92E2DFA.16A8D%patrick.stickler@nokia.com>

On 2002-06-12 19:52, "ext patrick hayes" <phayes@ai.uwf.edu> wrote:

>>>>> patrick hayes said:
>> <snip amount="lots"/>
>>>  (6) Does this require any changes to syntax/ test cases/ Ntriples/
>>>  datatyping/ whatever?
>>>  A: No.
>> Until you had used the word 'namespace' in the bit I've cut from
>> above, I would say no.  When namespace appears in the MT, I'm
>> worried.
>> I just went and checked in the MT WD, and you do use it a few more
>> times than I expected.  Hmm!
>> Patrick Stickler has said elsewhere that "namespaces are punctuation"
>> which is a bit strong, but for RDF/XML that is mostly correct.  RDF
>> does not have namespaces in the model (theory).
> I didn't say "XML namespace", I just said "namespace" A namespace
> means a set of names. A namespace in RDF is just a set of urirefs.
> Perhaps this needs to be spelled out more carefully. If 'namespace'
> is misleading, call it a 'vocabulary' or something.

*YES* by all means, call it a vocabulary. Let's please restrict use
of the term 'namespace' to an XML Namespace, which is strictly
punctuation for XML applications interpreting qnames in a global

Though, even if you called it a pumpkin, there is *still* no
explicit relation between a term's URI and any such vocabulary
in the RDF graph which could serve as the basis for differentiating
between asserted and unasserted triples.



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