- From: Frank Manola <fmanola@mitre.org>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:13:03 -0500
- To: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- CC: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, ext Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>, RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
Patrick Stickler wrote: > On 2002-02-13 14:37, "ext Frank Manola" <fmanola@mitre.org> wrote: > > >>Patrick Stickler wrote: >> >> >>>On 2002-02-12 20:28, "ext Frank Manola" <fmanola@mitre.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Patrick says the language is non-existent in the >>>>RDF graph. >>>> >>>> >>>Insofar as most examples, representations, DT discussions, etc. I.e. that >>>based on most materials and discussions, it seems to be a rather common >>>view that literals are simple strings. I've yet to see a single example >>>where the literal was represented as a string-language pairing. >>> >>>Clearly, some implementations do treat literals as pairings. >>> >>>It was stated that ARP does this, but if I enter >>> >>> <dc:title xml:lang="en">World Wide Web Consortium</dc:title> >>> >>>in the W3C RDF validator, I don't see 'en' reflected in either the >>>triples or the graph. Is it then optional functionality not used >>>by the validator? Or is that functionality in a later version of ARP >>>than what is used by the validator? >>> >>>(this isn't a criticism or refutation, just an honest question) >>> >> >>Patrick-- >> >>Could I sum up what you just said by saying "Patrick says the language >>is non-existent in the RDF graph"? :-) >> > > You could say "language appears to be non-existent, insofar as many > applications, discussions, examples, etc. fail to represent it in > any recognisable fashion" > > I'm not saying "language does not belong in the graph" or "language > should not exist in the graph" or "M&S does not say language is in > the graph" all of which are possible interpretations of the quote > you propose attributing to me. Patrick-- Sorry--I don't mean to be attributing things to you that you didn't say (although I note that in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Feb/0299.html you DID say "At present, language is invisible (and thus IMO nonexistent) in the RDF graph.") [Sounds like a good example for the reification discussions :-) ] Quotations to one side, I think we're agreeing that something needs to be explicitly said about this. --Frank -- Frank Manola The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road, MS A345 Bedford, MA 01730-1420 mailto:fmanola@mitre.org voice: 781-271-8147 FAX: 781-271-875
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