- From: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 08:19:16 +0100
- To: rdf core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
RDFCore WG 2001-08-17 Teleconference Minutes
Transcript:
http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2001-08-17.html
Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0071.html
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Roll call:
Participants:
- Art Barstow
- Dave Beckett
- Dan Connolly
- Ron Daniel (part time)
- Pat Hayes
- Martyn Horner
- Brian McBride (chair)
- Eric Miller (part meeting)
- Stephen Petschulat (scribe)
- Pierre G. Richard (part meeting)
- Jos De Roo
- Aaron Swartz
Regrets:
- Dan Brickley
- Mike Dean
- Jan Grant
- Graham Klyne
- Frank Manola
Absent:
- Frank Boumphrey
- Bill dehOra
- Rael Dornfest
- Guha
- KWON, Hyung-Jin
- Michael Kopchenov
- Yoshiyuki Kitahara
- Ora Lassila
- Sergey Melnik
- Satoshi Nakamura
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REVIEW MINUTES OF MEETING on 27th July 2001
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0065.html
These minutes were approved.
REVIEW MINUTES OF FACE TO FACE MEETING 1-2 AUG 2001
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/
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ACTION 2001-08-17#1 Brian Update to show Mike Dean present for part of
meeting.
ACTION 2001-08-17#2 Brian Remove decision
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/2001-08-02.html#T21-09-50
as no decision was formally made.
ACTION 2001-08-17#3 Gather copies of presentations and other materials for
the record and add to the web site.
ACTION 2001-08-17#4 Jos reported broken links in the minutes. Art
noted the link checker at:
http://validator.w3.org/checklink
The record will be updated and reviewed again at the next teleconference.
ACTION 2001-08-17#5 Eric Miller Write a newletter summary of the face to
face for ciculation to the W3C members.
CONFIRM FOLLOWING ACTIONS COMPLETED (2 min)
The following actions were confirmed completed:
ACTION 2001-07-20#6 - DanBri - send a note to the list that
describes the RDF Schema issues that he wants to discuss
at the f2f meeting
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Jul/0438.html
ACTION 2001-08-01#1 Mike Dean Provide public URL to his presentation
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0037.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/att-0051/01-RDF_Model_Theory_postF2F.html
ACTION 2001-08-02#5 Sergey Melnick Send copy of document projected
at meeting to the mailing list
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/sergey.txt
ACTION 2001-08-02#6 Brian McBride Approach Jeremy Carrol to help
with RDF/XML language definition.
ACTION 2001-08-02#8 Dan Brickley Ensure that the document projected,
as amended during the meeting goes on line.
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/ericsdoc.txt
2001-08-02#11 Graham Klyne Post message to list describing how CC/PP
uses datatypes
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0028.html
ACTION 2001-08-02#18 Jan Grant Propose an explanation of why a
subproperty of a transitive property need not be transititive.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0031.html
ACTION 2001-08-02#20 Ron Daniel Post his list of agreed principles
to the list.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0001.html
ACTION 2001-08-02#21 Brian McBride Propose structure of documents to
be produced
ACTION 2001-08-02#24 Brian McBride Open rdfs-no-cycles-in-subClassOf
with Frank Manola as owner
ACTION 2001-07-27#3 - Brian - Update f2f page to point to Pat's
model theory
The following action remains open as Pat does not consider it completed.
ACTION 2001-08-02#4 Pat Hayes Re-write model theory as an
interpretation of a graph rather than n-triple
CONFIRM FOLLOWING ACTIONS CLOSED
ACTION: 2001-06-22#5: DanBri: Get a draft of RDFSchema to the
group.
ACTION 2001-07-20#1 - all WG members - send regrets to Eric Miller
ASAP if you not be able to attend the meeting.
ACTION 2001-07-20#5 - Sergey - summarize the model theory
references
ACTION 2001-07-27#4 - Pat - create table of pros/cons for model
theory for f2f
These actions were confirmed closed.
REVIEW STATUS OF FOLLOWING ACTIONS (5 min)
ACTION: 2001-07-06#2 (danbri) - write test cases for the RDF schema
issues that are impacted by literals-as-resources.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2000-07-20#10 - Bill - create xml:lang use cases
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-07-27#1 - EricM - For 2001-07-20 minutes re
character-encoding issue, to write up his correction and send to list
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-07-27#2 - Bill - For 2001-07-20 minutes, Bill to send
mail clarifying his action to review M+S w.r.t. what it says
about literals.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-01#2 Brickley - Get Model Theory Introduction Slides
online
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-01#3 Pat Hayes Include example in model theory slides
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#7 Dave Beckett With help from Art and Jan,
investigate how to represent RDF/XML grammar and the specification of the
transformation of RDF/XML to a graph representation.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#10 Jan Grant Write up a fix/workaround for folks
using the currently defined semantics for domain and range constraints.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#12 Jan Grant Post message to list about how EASEL
uses datatypes
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#13 Pat Hayes Post message explaining why having
the typing at the top of the hierarchy in RDFS is not a set
theoretical hole.
DONE
ACTION 2001-08-02#14 Ora Lassila Talk to Ian and Frank and get
background on why they require cycles in rdfs:subClassOf
relationship.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#15 Pat Hayes Discuss cycles in rdfs:subClassOf and
rdfs:subPropertyOf with DAML folks and report back to us.
CONTINUED - Plan to discuss at next DAML telecon
ACTION 2001-08-02#15 Sergey Melnik Discuss reification alterantives
with Pat Hayes.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#22 Hyung-Jin Kwon Make his presentation available
on the web and circulate URL to the list.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#33 Dan Brickley Form task force with Graham Klyne,
Martyn Horner and Jan Grant to investigate the DAML+OIL approach
to XML datatypes.
CONTINUED
ACTION 2001-08-02#23 Brian McBride Update schedule to aim for
WWW2002 announcement.
CONTINUED
All of the following actions, described in
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20010801-f2f/#actions
to the RDF Schema working draft were CONTINUED
2001-08-02#9 2001-08-02#25 2001-08-02#26 2001-08-02#27 2001-08-02#28
2001-08-02#29 2001-08-02#30 2001-08-02#31 2001-08-02#32 2001-08-02#32
2001-08-02#17 2001-08-02#19
Discuss the strawman document structure: (15 mins)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0038.html
After discussion the following actions were assigned:
ACTION 2001-08-17#6 Dave Beckett Write strawman WD on Experimental RDF
XML Syntax
ACTION 2001-08-17#7 Pat Hayes write strawman WD on model theory with
reification and containers removed.
ACTION 2001-08-17#8 Art Barstow Write strawman WD on test cases (
including n-triples).
Issue #rdfms-glossary Martyn (10 mins)
Martyn has a submitted an initial document:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/att-0064/01-RDFTerminologyConcepts.html
ACTION: Martyn to update this document and collect feedback.
Issue #rdfs-transitive-subSubProperty
Review Jan's message
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/0031.html
It was proposed that Jan's message resolves this issue and that the action
should be closed. However, no formal decision was recorded.
Issue #rdfms-literal-is-xml-structure (10 mins)
http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-literal-is-xml-structure
Jeremy volunteered to own this issue, but will now be on vacation for
two weeks.
Model Theory (10 mins)
The latest model theory was discussed
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Aug/att-0051/01-RDF_Model_Theory_postF2F.html
Concern was raised that the assignment of terms of the RDF and RDFS namespaces
causes confusion.
Next telecon - 10am Boston time, 27th August 2001.
AOB (5 mins)
CLOSE
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