- From: Yaron Goland <yarong@Exchange.Microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:35:27 -0800
- To: "'Clemm, Geoff'" <gclemm@Rational.Com>, w3c-dist-auth@w3.org
Geoff, I hope you aren't seriously expecting me to engage in a debate with you whose foundation is the need to preserve pretty method names. It really doesn't matter if the name is SUBSCRIBE or S#*&!@. Other than the later will probably cause more typo-s. If using multiple names will help interoperability and my experience leads me to believe that this is so, then we should use multiple names. To hell with conserving pretty names. > -----Original Message----- > From: Clemm, Geoff [mailto:gclemm@Rational.Com] > Sent: Thu, February 24, 2000 8:32 PM > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > Subject: RE: Yaron.Redirect.ClientUpdate > > > I don't think that the "method for each variant of each operation" > scales. I can think of 4 or 5 groups that would like to pick > SUBSCRIBE > to mean something slightly different. One of the advantages of live > properties is that they have a built-in namespace mechanism. I agree > that this will mean that servers will need two extra dispatch points > (i.e. in PROPFIND and PROPPATCH), but I believe that is a small price > to pay in order to avoid name collisions as more extensions to WebDAV > are developed. > > Note: there currently are few enough WebDAV extensions, that > I could get > the names I want for bindings, redirect references, and even > versioning, > but I can already the cursing of subsequent protocol developers > as they discover that all the meaningful method names in their domain > have been used by the first wave of protocol developers. > > Cheers, > Geoff > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:yarong@Exchange.Microsoft.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 1:55 AM > > To: 'Slein, Judith A'; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; 'yarong@goland.org' > > Subject: RE: Yaron.Redirect.ClientUpdate > > > > > > We can either let them use MKREF to update it or we can introduce a > > UPDATEREFTARGET method. Lately I have been leaning to > introducing new > > methods in order to simplify the standard text. Re-using > > existing methods > > for related functionality has proven to make specs harder > to read. For > > example, in my GENA spec I specified that SUBSCRIBE can be > > used with a NT > > header to create a subscription and with a Subscription-ID > > header but no NT > > header to renew a subscription. The result is that I had to > > put in some > > fairly confusing language to explain what to do if a request > > has both a NT > > and a Subscription-ID header. After that experience I just > introduce a > > RESUBSCRIBE method to simplify things. Of course, this > isn't a perfect > > solution since the more methods you have the more things > > people have to put > > on their slides when they explain WebDAV. =) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Slein, Judith A [mailto:JSlein@crt.xerox.com] > > > Sent: Mon, February 21, 2000 12:52 PM > > > To: Yaron Goland; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > > > Subject: RE: Yaron.Redirect.ClientUpdate > > > > > > > > > As long as we have the DAV:reftarget property, the obvious > > > thing to do is > > > allow clients to update its value. If you want to get rid of > > > that property, > > > as it seems you do from NoWebDAV#3, then I suppose we would > > > need something > > > like an UPDATEREFTARGET method. > > > > > > --Judy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:yarong@Exchange.Microsoft.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 2:57 AM > > > To: 'w3c-dist-auth@w3.org' > > > Subject: Yaron.Redirect.ClientUpdate > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I just missed it but there doesn't seem to be any way > > > to update the > > > target of a redirection resource without deleting it. I > move that a > > > mechanism be provided that enables the target of a > > > redirection resource to > > > be updated without having to delete the resource. > > > > > >
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